Hi everyone

When you attack using Widow Tarha's Heroic Feat you roll one attack roll that affects two different monsters. If surges are rolled (or gained via an item/ability), can you individually choose what the surges do for each monster OR do you make one choice that affects both monsters?

Furthermore - when using this heroic feat, can you regain 2 fatigue instead of 1 if you use the regain fatigue surge ability upon attack? The reason why I ask is because the attack affects two different monsters.

I think that for this heroic feat the player can choose to spend surges differently for each individual monster AND decide to regain fatigue twice (once for each monster affected). My reasoning is that because the feat says that the attack affects 2 different monsters that roll defense dice seperately, the results can be wildly different as well in terms of how the player would like to spend the surges for each monster.

Thoughts? Thanks in advance!

Nah, it's pretty much just like a focused version of blast or other AEs, ie all results of surge expenditure etc apply to all affected targets. There's no separate spending of surges, nor do surges have to be distributed among targets or anything. (Edit: and certainly no gaining of more than one fat from a single attack)

The separate defense rolls clause is a standard clause when area or multitarget attacks are involved (a few may omit them for error or space reasons), it's not indicative of any special handling.

One attack roll is just that. You determine what the surge does and apply it to both targets. Likewise, any benefit from surges is considered from a single attack. The heroic feat is in a sense amplifying the one attack, but it's still just one attack.

Ok - Thanks everyone!

I know I'm late to the party with this one, but I still have a question nonetheless...

The way I was reading it, the heroic feat implied to me that the attack can target any 2 enemies within line of sight (as in, range is not a factor here). Similar to the Dominion ability that Baron Zachareth has ... is that right?

Also, with her normal unique heroic ability... Can she use this to re-roll an attack conducted by her re-animate?

I know I'm late to the party with this one, but I still have a question nonetheless...

The way I was reading it, the heroic feat implied to me that the attack can target any 2 enemies within line of sight (as in, range is not a factor here). Similar to the Dominion ability that Baron Zachareth has ... is that right?

Also, with her normal unique heroic ability... Can she use this to re-roll an attack conducted by her re-animate?

Range is still a factor, it doesn't say to ignore range or anything of the sort.

No, she cannot re-roll attacks by her reanimate, only her own attacks.

I know I'm late to the party with this one, but I still have a question nonetheless...

The way I was reading it, the heroic feat implied to me that the attack can target any 2 enemies within line of sight (as in, range is not a factor here). Similar to the Dominion ability that Baron Zachareth has ... is that right?

Also, with her normal unique heroic ability... Can she use this to re-roll an attack conducted by her re-animate?

Range is still a factor, it doesn't say to ignore range or anything of the sort.

No, she cannot re-roll attacks by her reanimate, only her own attacks.

I felt the question was worthy for two reasons:

(1) It doesn't say to ignore range or anything of the sort on Zachareth's "Dominion" ability (even though I understand that it's not technically an attack), and

(2) It is more logical to me, since every character in range is in line of sight but not every character that is in light of sight is in range, that the card would have been worded differently to account for the need to attack within range moreso than line of sight. After all, what would be the point of specifying "line of sight" when Tahra could well be weilding a mele weapon.

Thank you for your answers. :-)

I know I'm late to the party with this one, but I still have a question nonetheless...

The way I was reading it, the heroic feat implied to me that the attack can target any 2 enemies within line of sight (as in, range is not a factor here). Similar to the Dominion ability that Baron Zachareth has ... is that right?

Also, with her normal unique heroic ability... Can she use this to re-roll an attack conducted by her re-animate?

Range is still a factor, it doesn't say to ignore range or anything of the sort.

No, she cannot re-roll attacks by her reanimate, only her own attacks.

I felt the question was worthy for two reasons:

(1) It doesn't say to ignore range or anything of the sort on Zachareth's "Dominion" ability (even though I understand that it's not technically an attack), and

(2) It is more logical to me, since every character in range is in line of sight but not every character that is in light of sight is in range, that the card would have been worded differently to account for the need to attack within range moreso than line of sight. After all, what would be the point of specifying "line of sight" when Tahra could well be weilding a mele weapon.

Thank you for your answers. :-)

1) The fact that it's not an attack makes all the difference. Range and line of sight is alway s part of an attack, unless it's ignored. Many non-attack abilities will specify a number of spaces away that an ability can work- this is similar to a range requirement, but doesn't need line of sight (you still can't count through doors or obstacle terrain, though.)

2) Melee does require line of sight- it's just that regular melee always has it (because adjacent spaces automatically have line of sight to each other since they share a corner) and reach does actually require line of sight.

An attack counts as one attack even of it effects multiple targets. The only way you can attack twice is if it specifically states "attack twice". After an attack roll, the surge is spent on that specific attack. Then each figure that is effected by the attack rolls a defense dice. Example: Shadow Dragon Rolls an attack. Spends one Surge to activate Fire Breath. Fire Breath targets four spaces in a row and three heroes are in those spaces. They each roll a defense die separately.

What if Widow Tarha used her heroic feat to attack 2 monsters, one is 3 spaces away and another is 6 spaces away. She rolled 4 range, does all attack miss? Does it hit only one monster?

1 hour ago, Letanir said:

What if Widow Tarha used her heroic feat to attack 2 monsters, one is 3 spaces away and another is 6 spaces away. She rolled 4 range, does all attack miss? Does it hit only one monster?

1 hit, 1 miss. It's really simple: you roll once, you act as if you are attacking a single monster, you apply your roll to both monsters. And they both roll defence.

Using her Heroic feat Tarha may perform one single attack . An attack cannot miss and not miss that the same time. It is either a miss or not. If it is a miss no damage is dealt to any target. Based on rulings on Stealthy (see below) the attack from Tarha's Heroic feat is a miss if range to any target is not sufficient.

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Whirlwind vs. Stealthy
Whirlwind says "[Action]: Perform an attack with a Melee weapon targeting all adjacent monsters. You make 1 attack roll and each monster rolls its defense dice separately."
Stealthy says "Each attack that targets this monster must roll 3 additional range beyond the normally required amount or the attack is a miss."
If a Berserker uses Whirlwind , targeting a monster with Stealthy as well as other monsters that do not have Stealthy, and he rolls 2 Range, is the entire attack considered a miss, or does he only miss the monster with Stealthy?

Justin Kemppainen wrote:
Yes, in this case the entire attack would be a miss.

Thanks,
Justin Kemppainen
Creative Content Developer
Fantasy Flight Games