Yesterday, UPS delivered my Panzer Kampflaufer and I am eager to get it to the table. Unfortunately, that model has no official stats for Warfare - just Tactics.

I only got into the game about a couple of months ago and was originally planning on collecting an SSU army. However, due to concerns about the release of a campaign book, I held off. Why buy an army that doesn't have rules? Now I have a model without rules. Ugh.

So, what are the solutions? Well, I can house-rule stats based off of the Tactics card for the Kampflaufer. Anyone know of any sites that have already done so?

However, I think a much better solution - for the new Axis models and all the SSU models - would be for FFG to post stats on their site.

Why wouldn't they do this? It can't be much work for them and the costs would be minimal. If they are worried about reduced sales for their campaign books, they should worry more about reduced sales of their models due to the lack of available Warfare rules. I would have bought an SSU army (the models are awesome) and I have several friends in the same camp. Moreover, the campaign book offers so much more than just stats - of course I'm going to buy the book. But in the meantime, I'd really like to get the existing models to the table!

C'mon, FFG! Post the stats!

All I can say is, "Gen Con is coming." My guess is that FFG is behind the curve on DW as a result of the high sales volume. When DW launched at Adepticon the word was that the game would be getting quarterly updates. The first big one was to be the SSU book which I think will have the stats you seek in it…maybe as I remember an interview saying just that.

From MArch 30th on out the quarterly release schedule would give new units with new stats. So…the DW rules came out in March 30th, the SSU missed the 2nd quarter release for June 30th and now we are getting the SSU book mid 3rd Quarter (July 30th at the latest.) So I would expect and optimistically hope for September 30th (3rd quarter supplement) catch up for SSU, Allies and Axis (Hades maybe) and then a 4th Q teaser for the fourth faction. Yeah that's all a massive wish list, but…for me this makes sense of the quarterly release schedule detailed by Mack Martin before departure.

(I also think the end of Tannhauser is great news for DW. I hope FFG will focus and get some good work on stabilizing releases and communication about those releases. THey still have a lot of good will from the community, and I'd love to see them capitalize on that with some good community rep type feedback and communication.)

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Zverograd book will be in some stores this weekend, most others next week. It will have the stats you seek. Hades models are all Q4, and October is the earliest we'll see their book and stats. I don't know of many tabletop companies who publish exact stats outside of book sales. The ones who do have free rules, like DT. Dust Studios shows the stat card for DT online as soon as they announce the model.

In the meantime, I'd probably cost it at 55 or 60 AP, keep Armor at 5, Wounds 6, Move 6, and the, "Assault" SA. The MG 44 is already in-game statwise, so keep that as is. The Schwere Flammenluther weapons should be given the following SAs: Burst, Spray, and Tank Killer (which is why I think it'll cost 60 AP). They should be range 8. They'll be Flame Symbol/1 vs all infantry, and most likely 1/6 vs all armor, perhaps 1/7 vs arm 1-5. I could be way off, but that's what I'd use until official stats drop next week.

Shadow4ce said:

Thanks for the stat help; makes sense but I'm hoping the flamers are little stronger.

Also - where did you get the info on Zverograd's release? Is that official?

Marximus said:

Not official FFG. But official i nfo from ACD distributors. However, I've recently learned that even the distributors who have recieves it, are not allowed to ship it until Monday. So most stores will have it Wednesday of next week. Stores close to distributors will have it Monday.

Also, Hades is supposedly at the printers, so perhaps that will be on time.