Hello,

I'm quite new in AGOT LCG and I'd like to ask you a few questions (probably very simple) regarding game rules, for which I can't find any answer in community forum or aren't fully clear for me and my friends from game rules. Could you pls check them and provide me with your answers?

1. When I'm going to reveal the last card from my plot deck should I shuffle used plots and then return all shuffled plot cards into empty plot deck?
2. Bran Stark (S 13) -> Character ability says that in Plot phase you can kneel him to choose and reveal a new plot card.
* I assume that this character ability can be used only during 1st opened player action window in Plot phase, right?
* Can I choose the new plot from all plot cards in my plot deck and then shuffle the resting cards or can I then order the cards on my own for next turns?
3. Varys (L 142) -> Character ability says that in Plot phase you can switch plot decks and plot piles with a chosen opponent.
* I assume that this character ability can be used only during 2nd opened player action window in Plot phase, right?
* I also assume, that only claim, income values and whole long-lasting rules/effects from plot cards are taking into account after switching of plot cards, right?
4. Is it possible to move Poisoned Wine (T 101) from character (Any Phase, kneel 1 influence), which is going to be killed after implementation of challenge result?
5. Where should be discarded opponent's attachments attached to my character which is going to be killed? Into my discard pile or into discard pile of that opponent?
6. When I'm going to choose and kill some of my characters after losing a military challenge, I assume, that I can choose only those characters that can be killed that turn, right? So I can't choose characters, which can't be killed that turn e.g. based on plot card effect (L 194 - noble characters can't be killed) or Stannis's Nothern Cavalry (B 82), which has changed STR by any attachment or any other effect, right?
7. Is it somewhere possible to find plot phase action diagram including selection of Titles of Small Council?

Thanks in advance

1. When you turn your 7th plot over and after resolving it's effects is when I would move your used plots back to your unused pile. The 7th plot will become your first used plot during turn 8. No reason to shuffle them since you can pick and choose as you like. (Not 100% this is correct)

2. Again, plots are choosen as you want, so there is no reason to shuffle. You determine the order you play them. Bran can actually be used before or after the "standard reveal plot" action during the plot phase. When you reveal a plot in this manor the plot still takes effect, so you would do any of the "when reveal" effects on the plot. Then at the "standard plot" action you and your opponent would reveal new plots like normal. Or you could use Bran after the standard plots are revealed, and reveal a different one. (Note in all cases you can only reveal plots from your UNused pile.) Regardless of changing plots before or after, the plot revealed during the "standard plot" action is the one you use Initiative to determine who has higher INIT and then they decide who is First Player. Also, at the beginning of your turn of the Marshalling phase is when you count your gold, so it will not "stack" with any other plots you revealed this turn.

3. He can be used before or after the "standard plot" action.

4. You have to move it before they are killed by any particular means, so if this was for a MIL claim, it would need to be moved before the winner is decided. Because once a winner is determined claim is chosen. If that character is choosen to satisfy a MIL claim (and not saved) then they are moribund:dead and their attachment is moribund:discard. And since you cannot change a cards moribund state, there is no way to move it afterwards.

5. When a card leaves play for any reason, it always goes to the out-of-play area of the card owner. So they get their attachments placed in their discard pile and your character into your dead pile.

6. Correct, characters that "cannot" be something also cannot be chosen by those types of effects. So you cannot use any Noble for MIL claim during Power of Blood turns.

7. Don't believe it is in the diagram at all, but standard action is something like:

a. player actions (which could involved additional plots)

b. standard plots are revealed, winner of initiative is determined, first player is chosen, plot effects resolve completely (all "when reveal" effects).

c. player actions (which could involved additional plots)

d. Titles are chosen, starting with First Player, rotating clockwise

This is done because you can't determine First Player without the standard plot action, and you choose Titles before the draw phase since someone may get an additional card from the Titles.

Slothgodfather said:

Technically, I believe you return Used Plots 1-6 to your Unused Deck when the time comes to reveal your 8th plot, not just after revealing your 7th (or else during that turn you would have no Used Pile)

Ignore this. What Kristoff said is good.

Thank you very much guys.

Slothgodfather said:

KristoffStark said:

You are correct that during Round 7, you therefore have no plots in your used pile. But why is that a problem? You don't have any plots in your used pile in Round 1, either.

KristoffStark said:

Actually, you return your used plots to your plot deck after your revealed 7th plot has taken effect. You would have no used pile afterward just like the 1st round.

Your 7th plot is supposed to be the beginning of your next used plot pile in the 8th round.

It can make a difference because of characters like Archmaester Marwyn and Moon Boy that need to consider a used plot pile.

ktom said:

Huh. Well add that to the list of "things I apparently didn't read closely enough."

And it's not so much that I think it's a "problem," but rather that I did not expect the Powers that Be to want Plots that reference your used pile to become ineffective again in round 7. It seems counter-intuitive to me is all.

It would be worse to have an empty UNused plot pile: how would you choose and reveal a new plot with Bran, Bungled Orders and the like?

Khudzlin said:

With my understanding being that you recycled your used plots when called upon to reveal your 8th (whether by framework action or other effect), that was never a problem.