Hi !

I went through the rules several times and through the first 10 pages of this forum but still some question remains (or thing I want to be sure of).

1 - When I put a card into play (such as Khal Drogo : Response : After you win a challenge, put Khal Drogo into play from your hand.), I don't have to pay the gold gost of the card, have I ?

2 - About deckbuilding and duplicates : I can put in my deck 3 copies of a card with the same name. If two cards have the same name, but different abilities (for example : Rhaegal from the Core set #109 and Rhaegal from QoD #24), does it count for the maximum of 3 copies of a card ? In this case, can I have 3 copies of Rhaegal from the Core set and 3 copies of Rhaegal from QoD, or can I only put 1 of the first and 2 of the second and vice versa or 3 of one and 0 of the other…

3a - About attachments : when a character is killed with an attachment, is the attachment sent to the discard pile or the dead pile ? Same question if the character is discarded.

3b - Can I attach an attachment to any character in play (even an oponent's) or do I need the attachment to specifically read that I can attach it to an oponent's personnality ?

4 - Motley + triggered abilities : If I attach Motley (Attached character must give you 1 gold token from his or her gold pool each time he or she wishes to declare attached character as and attacker or defender, or trigger atatched character's ability.) to Tywin Lannister (At the beginning of the marshalling phase, take 2 gold from the treasury and place it on Tywin Lannister.) will the player controlling Tywin have to give me 1 gold when he places 2 gold from the treasury on Tywin ? I guess not but I want to be sure.

I'm sure I have other questions, but I can remember them right now.

Anyway thank you for your answers ! this is a great game I'm happy to learn to play !

texhnolyzed said:

Lets see if i can get them all right.

1) To put into play differs from "to play" - you only "play" cards during your marshalling phase this is also the only time you pay the gold cost specified. When u put a card in to play like Khal Drogo you do not pay his cost. (Shadow cards have a slight abbreviation of this rule - refer to the shadow card rules).

2) As far as the rules concerned your deck "may not contain more than three copies of a card." It does not specify the name of the card therefor in my oppinion you could have 3 different kinds of Khal Drogo (for instance) with 3 cards each. BUT if one of the Khal drogos is in the deadpile all other 8 Khal Drogo cards cannot enter play.

3a) Attachments are sent to the discard pile when the attached character is killed. If a character is discarded he is sent to the discard pile. Be aware of Deathbound cards who are to some extent an exemption to the rule.

3b) As long as the character is eligible you can attach it to either your own but also an opponent character. You have to watch out though that if a character says no attachments or no attachments except.. .. or if the attachment says for example: house tully only .

4) Tywin lannister receiving 2 gold at the beginning of the marshalling phase is a passive ability and therefor not triggerable. So: no you do not get any gold when tywin receives his gold.

Thank you for you fast answers.

Think the only one you got wrong is the number of cards. The game looks at the title of the card, so you can have 3 khal drogo' cards. Within that 3 you can mix and match so to speak, the first you play is the active card, another version will enter as a dupe (you cant swap which one your using). If 1 ends up in the dead pile you cant play any others at all. If the active one is discarded then you can play another version (as they are not in the dead pile) and that version will be the one that you have in play rules wise.

Its the same for cards that have the same title but a diffrent type, like shaggydog which has a character and attachment version, you can only run 3 shaggydogs in the deck total.

i thought that first - but couldn't find anything about that in the rules.

The sentence i quoted in my answer was an actual quote from the rule book.

MrFixit said:

Thank you for your answers.

About this particular case of shaggydog, what happens if I play for example the character version ? I suppose I can't play the attachment version ? Or can I use it as a duplicate of the character version ? Same thing if I play the attachment I suppose I can't play the character ?

Thats about the size of it.

The worst bit is that with the character/attachment characters like shaggy if the character version ends up in the dead pile then the attachment version isnt going to et played at all.

texhnolyzed said:

In terms of having both the character and attachment version of Shaggydog in your deck, you are correct that as soon as you play one, you are not allowed to play the other (ie, character in play blocks you from playing the attachment, and vice versa), and if the character (or attachment - it's possible) is in your dead pile, you would not be able to play the other version at all. (Note that if one is in the discard pile, you can play the other.)

You can use the attachment as a dupe on the character, and vice versa. This is because the dupe rules are also "by title." So, if you have played the character, while you cannot play the attachment, you are allowed to dupe the character with the attachment.

Oh - and a clarification on #1:

When you play the card from your hand as your action in Marshaling, you have to pay the costs. That's part of the definition of playing the card. But if you use a card effect to get the card into play (rather than the game mechanic for marshaling your cards), you pay the cost of the card effect only.

For example, some card effects might say something like "Any Phase: Pay X gold to put a card into play from your discard pile. X is the printed cost of that card," so it looks like you are paying the cost for playing the card, but what you are really doing is paying the "X gold" cost of the "Any Phase" effect. If the card effect that puts the card into play doesn't have a gold cost (like Khal Drogo's Response), you don't have to pay any gold.

Thank you for all these clarifications, it's much appreciated !

I still can't think of any other questions right now, but I think I will be back soon

Here are some other questions.

By going through a card search, I stumbled across some cards that are not clear to me on some points :

1 - Khal Drogo, QoD set #21. The card reads that when he dies, you can search for X dothraki characters. What happens if Drogo has any duplicates, and I use one to save him ? Do I still search for dothraki cards or not ? I suppose not as he is saved and thus not killed but still the question remains…

2 - Black Hatchling (and other hatchling in fact), QoD set #18. In the upper left corner, the gold cost icon states that the card costs zero gold… But there is a small S by its side, what does that mean ?

3 - Blue-Lipped Warlock, QoD set #13. The card reads that you can use his ability only if there are at least 3 characters in your dead pile. Does that count duplicates or cards with different titles ? To be clear, can I have 3 cards titled "A" in my dead pile to trigger the ability or do I need to have 3 cards titled "A", "B" and "C" for example ?

Thank you for your answers

texhnolyzed said:

You are correct, if khal drogo is saved he dosent die and that means you cant trigger his save. This is true regardless of they type of save, if he wont be hitting the dead pile then you cant search.

texhnolyzed said:

texhnolyzed said:

Its relatively rare to see multiples of the same unique in the dead pile (remember, dupes are discarded if the character hits the dead pile; for example if it cant be saved this turn) and im not entirely sure how that would work (i would argue that multiple of the same UNIQUE do not count for such limits) but any non uniques are an individual character to count in the dead pile just as they are when they are in play, so if you have 3 horesback archers in your dead pile your blue lip warlock is good to go.

Thank you for your answers.

I forgot that when a unique character is killed, its duplicates are sent to the discard, so as you said, it may be rare to have x2 or x3 of a card with the same title in the dead pile.

Thank you for the info about shadows cards. As you may have guessed I am a targaryan player so I will soon buy the queen of the dragons and have a proper look at that

Anyway thank you again !

texhnolyzed said:

I forgot something I want to make sure.

If I win a power challenge and the opponent has no power token in his pool, I suppose I claim nothing ?

Also, if a character (or anycard in fact) has some token on it, if the card is destroyed, I suppose the tokens are returned to the main pools ?

texhnolyzed said:

You could still end up getting the bonus power for winning an unopposed challenge, or your participating characters getting power for renown, though.

texhnolyzed said:

Me again for another round of rules clarification

1 - Daenerys, core set states : If you win a challenge in which Daenerys attacked alone".

What does "attack alone" really means ? Does she need to be the only character declared as an attacker ?

For example, if for any reason, some other character joins the challenge (buy being put into play or whatever) on her side, can I use her passive ability at the end of the challenge ?

2 - About end phase : does it take place after all players have played for this phase, or is there and end phase for each player, each phase ?

Example : Khal Drogo (core set) states : Response: After you win a challenge, put Khal Drogo into play from your hand. At the end of the phase, return Khal Drogo to his owner's hand.

So, I win a challenge, and put Khal Drogo into play. I resolve all my other challenges. Do I put Khal Drogo back into my hand at the end of my last challenge or does he stay in play during the next player's challenges and then I put him back into my hand when the last player has resolved his last challenge ?

3 - Power on characters : if a card checks that a character has power, we are talking about power tokens placed on the character ?

Exampple : Devan Seawortth (core set) states : While any character you control has 1 or more power, Devan Seaworth gains stealth.

In this case you need to have at least one character with at least one power token on him in order for Devan to gain stealth, right ?

4 - Income bonuses, Tywin Lannister (core set) + Rains of Autumn (core set).

Tywin states : At the beginning of the marshalling phase, take 2 gold from the treasury and place it on Tywin Lannister.

Rains of Autumn states : Characters, locations, and attachments do not provide income bonuses this round.

Does the passive ability on Tywin counts for Rains of Autumn ? or does he still takes 2 gold at the beginning of the marshalling phase ?

5 - Taxation + Tywin Lannister (him again !) : Are gold token on Tywin discarded during the taxation phase ? Also, if any other character has gold tokens on him, would they be dicarded during the taxation phase ? I suppose not, else I don't see the point of putting gold tokens on characters if not to protect them.

Again, thank you for your answers !