Amazon.com send me a 5.00 coupon which i was able to apply to the order bringing my price down to 11.00, however I'm still stuck waiting

The expansion looks great from all the pics/info I've been able to gather though!

Ry

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"I'm stuck waiting for Amazon to ship as they haven't gotten their shipment yet. I couldn't pass up the price (Low base price plus a 10.00 coupon ended up being under 17.00 shipped) but it looks like I'm paying for it by having to wait a while.

Ry"

Finally got to play the Dungeon expansion last week...and I must say I quite liked it. The new board itself is fun, and as others have said, I did not notice a significant decrease in player interation.

Only would pick on a couple of things....

1: By the time you are strong enough to have decent chance against the Dungeon Lord, you're also strong enough to make a decent run at the crown of command...so, anyone who stays in the dungeon long enough to have a try at him, stands a good chance of being beaten to the finish (maybe I'm just complaining about this because it happened to me.... )

2: The art on the Character cards for the Dungeon Characters looks like it was drawn by an 11 year old kid. No offense to any 11 year olds, but compared to the character art from the Reaper expansion or the rest of the new Dungeon cards, the Dungeon character cards are really poor. Maybe they kept them very simple to make the figures easier...?

I have no complaining about the character cards..

I like them a lot.

But if i must say one character card from the dungeon who has the poorest art, then it is the Amazone..

Swashbuckler:

I have play with him today for the first time.

I like him very much. WOW what is he active on the main board.

Drawing everytime 2 adventure cards on field spaces if no other cards are laying there..

I have get so many times a extra turn. It's also very active in the dungeon !

One thing is for sure.. ( he is one of my favorites ! )

To tell something more about my journey's in the dungeon..

Yesterday, i have defeated the LOD and it was the first time that i landed on the Crown !

You can level up fast in the dungeon if you are strong enough to go there.

I found different objects that boost my statistics by 6 in battle, and more off course. Just awesome !

It was also the quickest game with 7 tropy limit ( 2 1/2 hours ! ( and no haste)

Same time average as the 5 trophy limit.

It was the swashbuckler who claim victory today.

Due to his extra turn and extra card draw on fields, he is just awesome, and he kick ass in the dungeon too

I saw that the Giant Spider( who suppose to be in the dungeon) now on mainboard) has lose his ability from the third edition.

I will make a a house rule for this, so i will use his ability from third edition for the main board

At least.. he is a giant nasty spider now

I have a question about the dungeon keeper ( don't want to make a topic in the rules section

If you draw the dungeon keeper, and he steals your followers, and you can't buy them back, does the dungeon keeper steal followers again if you land on him a second time? but afterwards you can pay everything what he has..?

Velhart said:

Card text is not clear about this, but if he steals all Followers from every Character that lands on him after the first time, it will be very difficult for someone to buy Followers back and for the Dungeon Keeper to be discarded. I would say it only works once drawn from the deck.

This is a good question, it deserves an official answer.

Velhart said:

You can pay the Dungeon Keeper on the same turn he took your Followers and buy them all back, if you have enough Gold. In my last game I didn't have any Gold and I lost the game because of this Stranger.

Dungeon Keeper keeps on taking Followers. If you have enough Gold you can get them back and more... It's a great leveller!

talismanisland said:

Ok, so when you land on him you have to be without Followers.

Best bet is land on him when you're Cursed by a Hag. Leave the hag and release something better.

"Leveller"... a good way to make me lose another game I was ready to win!

The_Warlock said:

Displacement and Destruction can save you a bushel of Gold.

Dam said:

If you have such Spells it is well worth using them. Displacement is also very funny... Dungeon Keeper is moved to a space without face up Followers and will be discarded as well. He died in his loneliness...

The_Warlock said:

That would be a bit weird.

The dungeon keeper is selling those followers..

Example: if you evade the dungeon keeper, you can pick up those followers... ( this may not be possible, because the dungeon keeper is selling them !

So... the conclusion would be, that if you use displacement, the followers should be transfer too, together with the Dungeon keeper...

Velhart said:

Dungeon Keeper is a Stranger, so no Evading him, unless you use the variant.

He isn't selling them, more like keeping them as hostages until you pay the ransom.

Dam said:

yeah oke, but still, the idea that he is gonna send to another space, and leaving the followers behind..

It's a nasty trick..

The principle is more or less the same of the Idol being displaced/destroyed and an enslaved Character that's immediately free from enslavement.

It's not nasty, it's a good trick. Dungeon Keeper is a bastard, deserves to die in loneliness.

The_Warlock said:

Sounds like you're fan !

The_Warlock said:

Not enough gold!!!!!!!

Are you sure, in our game here we always end up with too much gold and look for ways to spend it.

Cheers

Old Master said:

I'm always broke in this game; but I've been noticing nobody else is so maybe I've just been unlucky. City expansion should empty our coffers pretty quickly though!

crimhead said:

Depends on how many different purchase cards will be available

I hope that FFG will create more different purchase cards than previous editions.

Old Master said:

I don't know why you have that much Gold in your games. I always feel I have plenty of chances to spend and no easy gaining.

I used to play with doubled Bag of Gold cards, because I felt that FFG revised edition replaced too many Bags in the base set to add some Enemy Spirits. I had an extra Upgrade Pack (thought about making an upgrade of BI edition, then decided to buy FFG box) and placed in the same deck 8 additional Bags and 3 additional Two Bags. When Frostmarch came out, I eliminated those cards to see if it's balanced now.

With Prophetess in play I was pretty sure not to draw a single Bag of Gold in the entire game. In fact, I made a trip in the Middle Region just to grab 3 Gold pieces that were piled on the Oasis after Prophetess drew Raiders as a replacement. As a neutral Character, I couldn't find any free healing around and the only way was to pay. I found myself with one life left after 4 Turns (lost 1 because of a Warlock Quest I must complete, 1 because Prophetess drew Snowdrifts and I failed, 1 because of a Wraith) and needed to spend 3 Gold for healing. Then I needed 3 Gold to complete a Warlock Quest. Then, I needed another 4 to pay a Porter and buy an Armour at the Market. I had a hard time getting all the Gold. And consider I also managed to land on a face up Treasure map and get 4 Gold.

Prophetess ended with 9 Gold, because she drew a lot of Bags of Gold (would you discard a Bag of Gold for something else, when you have poor Strength and may find worse Event/Stranger cards?). Other Characters ended with no Gold. This is pretty common in my games: you have piles of Gold only when game are very long (5-6 players).

In our games, we have enough gold, and with frostmarch included, then we have too much

How is it possible to walk with a empty pocket?

Off course, we play with 2 players.

With more players, the gold will be spread among players, so that will decrease the chances a little..

I would have to side with having too much gold. Even in 4 or 5 player games, we're always asking, "What is there to do with all this gold?. When I purchased Frostmarch, I left out some of the gold just so we wouldn't be flooded.

Caliban said:

Let's assume that we need it for something in the future..

If the City will show up, with a lot of purchase cards, then we have enough money to buy stuff

If in the City appears lots of nice stuff in Purchase desk then Thief and Merchant will grow a lot more by taking it for free in a Village not even crossing the City.. Apart from that Horse and a Cart in Village or Market looks strange... I hope that all things in this revised 4th editions are planed in respect of future expansions and everything will be good balanced when we receive full game with all the expansions.

The same with missing Gong and Altar in the Dungeon makes that PvP battle is less used and there is no place to pray in whole Dungeon - what make poor Priest even lesser. I do not not think it was a good idea to take Altar from Dungeon to Main Board because there was a lot of places to pray. Similary with Spider which lost his web abbility in 4th edition. Of course there are many good changes in current edition but things mentioned above was useless in my opinion. This edition have potential to be the best one without any bugs . I hope that Altar and Gong will be added to Dungeon in fhe future expansions although FFG never mixed any expansions - rather expanded a base game. But Talisman is a unique game, so who knows what can we expect in the future...