Block 3. There are a few people who are trying to be Block 3 purists. Not that there is a problem with that or anything. But you can't really know how the Block 3 Meta is going to be like until March of 09. Sure, you get the general idea, yet it isn't the same IMHO and only MHO. But I am getting slightly off topic, so allow me to get to the point. I don't have to state the obvious by pointing out that we are still in Block 2. Albeit, we have block 3 cards, yet I feel that the best way to get ready for Block 3 is to build with both 2 and 3 to get a general flow for your deck.

Of course, I have been getting busted for using block 2 cards in my new Terry deck built off the All symbol. I mean, i can see why someone would be doing straight block 3, but for me, the only way to make sure that my deck will flow good is to get a general idea with block 3 and fill in any gaps with block 2 to compete in my leaugue tourney's or casual play, until I find a suitiable card type to fit into my plans for my deck. So don't knock block deuce. They are legal till March 09 anyways.

Thats exactly what im sayin why stop playing cards so soon i mean most of them arent coming back anyways so have fun while you can with the cards you got. Its not as fun 2 play with a limited card pool and cant use alot of cards that make decks good

I knock it.

I knock it ALL NIGHT LONG.

But seriously, if B2's your cup of tea, it's your prerogative as, what a lot of B3 purists seem to forget it's what's legal NOW .

Sure, in March, B3 shifts the whole **** thing on it's ear, but right now, it's B2. I choose, myself, to limit myself to B3 cards for various reasons. Chief amongst those my hatred of B2 and my wanting to understand card interactions in B3 format right now (We might not have them all, but we DO have a few, and due to the rotation format, we never really have ALL the cards for any given format at the format's top championship anyway), and there's a lot.

excatly. not using block 2 is like not using half the cards in the game.

Once block 2 is over, we are not going to see it's card pool unless we play legacy. The extremely obvious aside, I still want to play with foundations such as Merc and Flying Cross Chops. Granted, these are cards that you probaly don't think of when you think Block 2. But I know that gamers with a full set of Chain Throw sure aren't going to pass it up, even if they are trying a full block 3 experiance. Either way, give me a mix of both till block 3 is completly here.

I kind of agree, I don't see why everyone is so Block 3 exclusive already when we are still 4 months and 4 sets away from it. Lets start playing Block 3 early and not use half of the cards that are currently legal because we are tired of them, then when Block 3 gets here there will be a million threads about what block 2 cards everyone wishes were still legal. Makes sense right?

Agreed, especially since we now have until March, instead of February.

That's why I'm abusing the Hell out of **Mai** with Bitter Rivals before she cycles <3

welcome to the land of forums.It doesn't make much sense i agree, but them are the breaks when it comes to forums in general.

If i do see a thred like that after block 2 is retired, i am going to randomly state that i told you so. lol.Maybe...

Mt_Do said:

Heck they are already starting (last couple of posts):

new.fantasyflightgames.com/edge_foros_discusion.asp

Told ya so.

MarcoPulleaux said:

Thats just dirty.......but i like it lol

I do see why some people dont like the current format though it does have some combos and cards that most people dont want 2 see

Then again though its the same people who are playing all block 3 that are complaining because there arent answers to everything in the limited card sets they are using

Da_ghetto_gamer said:

It's undefeated thus far =D

Well, I'll give you some reasons people don't like the current block:

1) People like change, and they like the fresh feeling it gives. Change can't REALLY come until the next cycle. And unlike the first cycle, this new one actually looks appealing
2) This current block, to most people, is boring. Set 10 did nothing but give us mediocre characters, a ton of craptastic cards, and then a small list of broken or overpowered cards, most of which has defined the current meta.
3) People are sick of waiting for the unknown. We hear all about Set 11, but have only seen 3 cards spoiled. We hear all these great plans for next block, like rules changing and balanced cards and Hata's work on sets, etc etc, but we haven't been ASSURED since we haven't SEEN any of it. We've gotten impatient, and really, the only thing that can instill interest in block 2 is Set 11 and another heaping helping of bans and erratas.

I happen to like Block 2. A lot. I think right now, a lot of symbols have the means to compete, and Set 11 ought to help the remainder of those symbols that cannot. People shouldn't be bored of this game; it's UFS! Single-handedly the greatest card game ever made. But whatever.

Block 2 cards as a whole arent really the problem, but theres a couple of them that are really annoying. Like I try to play my fio deck and get owned by absurd strength all the time it gets really annoying since my fio is only block 3, and even if she was block 2, itd still be a problem. But I know ahead of time I dont have to worry about that card in block 3, so its hard to get a sense of how my deck works when every time I play someone block 2 cards like that wreck it.

for me, playing block 3 only at this time, feels like playing a new game.

For me, Block 3 represents the ability to "start fresh" in some ways after being away from the game a while. My meta never really adjusted to Standard format when that -meant- Block 2, and I was getting shaky in terms of play skill and deck building expertise. Concentrating -myself- Block 3 allows me not just preemptive readiness for the more limited card pool, but a chance to try to relearn the game from near the ground up.

The fact is, though, that for some time I won't own a solid enough base of Block 3 cards to stick to that in the strictest sense, but that's just fine because the Block 2 stuff is still legal for me to fill the gaps with. I certainly wouldn't knock someone or point fingers for using Block 2 combos or abusing card interactions across the two blocks. Jumping into Block 3 ahead of time is about self-improvement, not trying to "fix" the way other people play. At least, that's my case.

Mt_Do said:

Again, I said that's your choice. You can still choose to do so because it's what's legal (and to be honest, I still feel most of the cards out of the last set of the year should be printed with the next year's watermark.) and especially with these cards. We haven't seen much of them, and they cycle out next March, making their time in legal Standard play very short compared to, say, Clones. B2 left a very sour taste in my mouth, enough to not wanting to have anything to do with it. I'll revisit the second year of UFS once or if Legacy stops being the running gag of Organized Play, but beyond that I'm done with Set 4 through 7.

I'm pretty much on my way with Block 3 in competiton and still hang with everything else in casual games.

Besides, that's how we roll here, what with our Legacy Theme Deck challenge events.

Homme Chapeau said:

Whoa, the way your responding makes me wonder if you think i am gunning for ya. Plz, I simply am making a point and that is all. It is my choice and if you read my first post than you would know that I was not knocking players wishing to play block 3. And yes, I am enjoyin' the combo of both blocks.

Mt_Do said:

Y'know how it is, only person arguing for B3 in the thread makes for a shoddy persecution complex. Maybe if I bothered to look I'd enjoy it more than way back in the summer but I'm so deep in B3 now that I can't even look at B2 in any objective manner anymore.

well I can understand the fact of being so far in. Chinese Boxing, Defender, Angel of the Evening, Feline Spike, Cat's Reflexes, U.S. Air Base, and so many good cards have been coming out for B3. It is actually looking quite interesting.

Homme Chapeau said:

were you one of the ones who switched to block 2 more or less right after worlds?

I really don't like block 3 as it currently exists. It's too limited a format. 3 expansions isn't enough for a functional standard format in UFS.

MarcoPulleaux said:

<3

Yeah well i dont wanna let go of B2 just yet, we may aswell make the most of it while we still can.

i dont see the point in the B3 only stuff, but i guess people are preparing themselves

hmm.

kiit said:

Yep.

And as far as I'm concerned we can never play the true full block anyway. All releveant tournaments are over by the time the third expansion in a year comes out, and by the fourth we're gearing up for next block.

Homme Chapeau said:

well, there is something that I've been wondering, and some thoughts that come to mind. first is why don't they just have rotaion happen say september 1st, under normal conditions there are no other major tournaments, and everyone jumps the gun anyways and starts playing the next block (and then get sick of it since they have been playing it for so long) second is more of why does is the rotation pushing through so fast, wasnt block 1 around for 2 or so years before rotating, block 2 is around for 3/4 of a year (since about june people decided that they should start gearing for block 3 and the end of august most "big name groups/big name players" dump their current block stuff and move on (then complain about how that block is getting stale {wonder why...}) thus in the end, rotaion should be beginning of september since most seem to want to jump into it anyways. and yes I am partially ranting cus I'm getting annoyed with a few players in my group that anytime I play a CURRENT/STANDARD BLOCK card i get "oh your still playing that stupid block 2 card, you should build block 3 only cus its better... yadda yadda yadda crap."