Not so long ago we speak about wishes to Descent (on thread What will the next expansion have in it?? ) .... Now it becomes to reality. FFG give us UPCOMING page which contains all informations about upcoming products and look what they cooked for us

Those are LTs... I don't see any avatars...and I'm not impressed...rather disgusted at the thought of a quick buck.

Why the hell would I pay 10$ for a figute I only use 15 minutes in the final combat.

Sorry about that FFG, but I personally am not willing to spend a total of almost $80 for a mere 7 miniatures.

Pack 'em in a blister, sell it for $20, then you are talking. IF they are prepainted, maybe $25, $30 max if they are truely gorgeous.

But currently it's a no-go for me, with no photos of the real minis - just their LT card pictures.

I want to know where you guys do your mini shopping. $10 US for 1 mini is not expensive. Not cheap mind you I agree but not expensive either.

I guess you could find something at reaper for less.

I'm personally hoping that there is some manner of additional content that accompanies these figures. I like the idea of them, but for the cost I hope a little more added content sneaks in there to help jazz up my games when this character shows up.

Otherwise, I'd have rather seen these grouped in one pack or maybe two.

I am a little surprised they did not package the three Farrows together. Since they are the three "base" lieutenants available to each avatar, it seems like those would be the ones most people would be interested in.

As for me, I'll be wait and see for the figures. $10 is a little high, but not bad for pewter figs. I recently paid $9 for a figure for my recent D&D character. If the sculps are good and the figures are of decent size, they may be worth it. I will not be calling them overpriced until I see them. However, I will not be pre-ordering them sight unseen.

This is exactly the reason why I'm quitting Descent.

It became an unsupported money pit...

granor said:

Minis are intended to be constantly used...Alric some cases dies in the third week, and the avatar is only used for a couple of minutes every few months...hell he might not even get to make his apperance at all !

iam said:

Not really...I mean...I dig all the expansion... brings variety and such... but things like this...yeah...too much.

StarBurn said:

Are you saying hte pieces of the game should be priced by how much they are used?

I don't think they are releasing these with the intent of selling these to everyone. These are pretty much for all the people that are mini-nuts. Like me. I don't really see the point in complaining, just don't buy them.

Who said I'm buying them ?!... its a opinion thread.

I'm just saying that the Descent game cost what 80$ ?!...seems stupid that I have to pay the hole descent game again for 8 minis...when the base game had a dozen of heroes or so with minis. I might be wrong here and the LTs might be made of bronze or something...But I'd rather have a pack with them all at 20$...15$ ?!

Sometimes I think people are blinded by the quality and quantity of minis contained within an FFG product. We've come to expect base games packed to the seams with shiny plastics, and they do not fail us. Descent and each of its expansions have provided in the fullest on this expectation. The reason they can do this is because the game sells well - thanks to peeps like us Descent nuts here. Producing that much plastic is not cheap (the plastic, yes, the moulds and skill in creating them, no). Compare this to other game providers and FFG stand head and shoulders above them.

So when they decide to release something outside our expectations - nice box crammed full of minis - and replace it with something outside the norm - single blister with higher quality mini - we get thrown. But now compare this left-fielder to other companies for similar deals and it ain't that far wrong - or expensive, as the real issue seems to be for many.

Buy the ones you want, if you want.

Plus, if these minis are truly of a higher quality, I'm sure their limited use in Descent can be made up for with use in other games. Numerous times a game of WFRP or D&D has been made by the DM springing an unexpected mini-surprise on the party to give his big bads a little more physical and psychological OOMPH! I think these guys (and gals) will do the same, especially to people yet to face a lieutenant or play RtL (which is kind of ironic because its been the Descent nuts who have been demanding these things since RtL first arrived...). A super mini may help the OL psyche out the heroes and give him the edge...just mebbe

StarBurn said:

Maybe will be maded from Gold ( world crisis begins rationally investment )...

In the nearest toy-shop I can buy figures for much lesser dollars (euro's in our country). I expect FF to add some more to the box....

I'd much rather have these be plain plastic to keep the cost down. I would enjoy them just as much. Or better still painted plastic like Tannhauser figures. I am a bit of a completionist but I think I'll pass on these if they are just single figures.

But like some posts here, just don't buy them if you don't like the price. Doesn't seem like we'll lose out on any real value to the game.

granor said:

$10 for a single 28mm mini IS expensive. Even Games Workshop has figures cheaper than this, though they do have some that are in this range (and probably higher)...

Hein99 said:

I agree here. They seem to be a little over-priced to me (unless the quality is amazing, anyway), but who cares? It's a nice extra, not an essential piece for game play and if you don't want them, don't buy them, no biggie either way, they have absolutely zero effect on gameplay and it seems like many people have been playing RtL perfectly fine without them since it's come out.

As I said in another thread, my main issue with these is that they're not plastic, making them inconsistent with the rest of the game. Seconary to that, by being less desirable to me, they also cost 4x what I would expect. I'll just have to hope a plastic set surfaces sometime.

People can complain until they are BLUE in the face but I don't see how this is a problem. The company making them is the same company that sculpts the Anima: Tactics minis which are pewter and are unpainted and they are gorgeous minis and look to have the same price tag. So if any of you are playing Anima Tactics you better not be complaining. Like others have said the game is popular and some of us wanted the minis for LT's. Paying 10 to 15 bucks for a single pewter mini is not that outrageous. I LOVE when people pull out the "quick money grab" line. These are a niche buy for die-hards and folks who want to invest in actual minis and not some substitute. FFG has always stood by the quality of their products and anyone who has been a supporter for this company should know that. Folks should be freaking lucky that FFG answered the call and made them in the first place.

They are not needed so folks who don't want to buy them don't. And if folks are complaining over the figures not being used in their games or for very long then what is your issue? Don't buy them. But don't come on here to gripe if you have no intention to purchase them. And people quitting the game because of a bunch of special minis coming out to "expand" on your Descent gaming experience (even if but a visual one) just seems plain sad really. Your going to quit playing a game over minis you don't even really need. I shake my head at that one.

I am looking forward to them being released and I hope that folks will post their pics as per the norm of their painted minis. I can only imagine how cool these minis are going to look given the look of the Anima: Tactics minis.

I'm for one and looking forward to the new LT mni's. Hay! If anyone have some free time How about turing to Lt's in to evil hero stats. Now the hero's are the vilians. I like that . Will have to look into it. NOt to quick in making the stats.

tumbs picture of pewter minis on FFG page ...

http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/edge_minisite_sec.asp?eidm=5&esem=2&esum=108

The complaints of "I don't want to spend that much money for a mini that won't see more than occasional use" is the big reason you didn't see minis included in RtL. At the same time, I vaguely recall there being a lot of flack thrown at FFG when they DIDN'T include models for the LTs. These metal minis are the result of those complaints.

What it boils down to is this: If you think it's a waste of money, then obviously you shouldn't buy the product! Also remember that the price of the minis is also proportionate to the number produced. I somehow doubt that the LT models are seeing the same number made as the Anima Tactics models, yet they're at the same price. I personally think that's a pretty good deal! If you disagree with me, you're welcome to do so, but I don't think it's fair to be bashing FFG for trying to provide more options for their customers. Or would you have rather seen a bigger price tag on RtL and have it include a whole bunch of plastic minis which only see use once or twice a year?

That being said, I do agree that:

1) They should provide some sort of "Package deal" for buying the three Farrows, or perhaps offer a discount when purchasing all the models, and
2) It would be awfully nice if they included some new material for the LTs or RtL in general... Maybe some LT-specific encounters, or some upgrades to give them either more/better minions or more tactical options.

I wonder if the lt. figures will be too big for use on the overland board. One complaint I keep seeing people make is that the lt figs would only get used in one or two encounters a campaign. If the figs could be used on the overland map as well, that may make them worthwhile to some people. Of course, the large figures like Thaadd probably will be too big, but the single space figures might work fine on the overland board.

Today ... FFG insert them in store. (see)

http://store.fantasyflightgames.com/showproducts.cfm?FullCat=102