I've been wondering how pure faith talents are affected, if at all, by radical beliefs and actions. In the Radical's Handbook the forsaken priest loses any pure faith talents he once had upon taking that career rank, but in Ascension Revolutionary is listed as an advance for a rank 16 Hierophant. Also, the Inquisitor's Handbook says that faith talents are lost if you have 10 or more corruption points, but Blood of Martyrs says nothing about this. Is there an official answer to these questions? If not I would like your opinion on them. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

What I did was bump the IH limit of 10 CPs to 20, since that seems to be the cutoff for a lot of the Faith Powers in Blood of Martyrs.

I think that it would depend alot of on type of Radical you are. A Xanthite for example is in my eyes unlikely to have True Faith but a Oblationist or Istvaanian may very well posses True Faith due to the fact that the later two are more unlikely than the former to soil themselves with the taint of Chaos. For me an ideological viewpoint in itself don't prevent someone from gaining True Faith, only taint by Chaos does. Of course you still need to actually have True Faith as a character in RPing to motivate the mechanical part but that's me.

A heretic can be as simple as believing in democracy and equal rights for all Imperial citizens. The state is heavily tied to the religion and one its cornerstones is obedience to the Imperial machine. Simply disobeying that and having an open minded. What we Americans might call Liberals is enough to be called a radical. That has nothing to do with Chaos, but it does leave oneself open to Chaos. In any case, none of that prevents an absolute faith in the God Emperor of Mankind, but you will still be called radical.

By the way the kind of faith Pure Faith represents is absolute. Its probably not pleasant for normal people to be around becuase of its intensity. I'm sure most of us have met people liek this. Magnify it by several factors and thats probably what a person with Pure Faith is like. Its probably just one of the reasons why many people don't want to 'hang out' with the Sisterhood. That same faith though is what lets normal women hold out against demonic forces that would otherwise corrupt them by just being near it. It lets them stand against impossible odds and sometimes even triumph over it.

andrewm9 said:

At least, up until the Grey Knights show up and use their blood for war paint.

Boss Gitsmasha said:

You know that little passage would have been so much better if the Grey Knighst asked for their blood to combat the demonic invasion. I am certain that the Sisters happily would have all given their lives to do so. Sacrifice freely given is often more powerful than one taken by violence. Had teh Sisters refused I am sure the Grey knighst woudl have taken it anyway, but I don't think thats what would have happened. Now I just see Grey Knights as murderous sorcerors rather than the unstoppable heroes I think they should be.

Don't forget taunting daemon heads with how awesome they are, use daemon weapons, etc.

But the SoB slaughter was where they REALLY screwed the GK up.

That said, I know someone who defends the whole codex and the fluff (and the author), I am not joking.

andrewm9 said:

I agree. Have the Sisters offer up their lifeblood in sacrifice to give the Knights a chance to purge the world once and for all. To honor them, the Knights recover the Sisters' banner/relics and take them back to Titan to hang in their hall of heroes for the rest of time, an eternal reminder of their sisters in arms and the sacrifices that mortal men and women can make.

trane said:

In the immortal words of Dawn of War's Dreadnoughts…. "By FIRE be PURGED!"