When does Soul Reaver release?

By Seeten, in Rogue Trader

HappyDaze said:

Would you allow an accomplished half-born to attain the rank of Dracon and lead Trueborn in battle in your games?

It's unlikely - primarily because such groups tend to be led by one of their own who has risen to power through cunning, ruthlessness and (commonly) murder. An outsider, of any kind, is ill-positioned to become Dracon of a band of Trueborn by merit of being an outsider.

My stock answer in cases like this is "it'd be so rare as to be essentially unhead of" - I'm not likely to include such a thing, and while you're welcome to take a different approach, I'd regard it as the exception, not the rule.

N0-1_H3r3 said:

HappyDaze said:

Would you allow an accomplished half-born to attain the rank of Dracon and lead Trueborn in battle in your games?

It's unlikely - primarily because such groups tend to be led by one of their own who has risen to power through cunning, ruthlessness and (commonly) murder. An outsider, of any kind, is ill-positioned to become Dracon of a band of Trueborn by merit of being an outsider.

My stock answer in cases like this is "it'd be so rare as to be essentially unhead of" - I'm not likely to include such a thing, and while you're welcome to take a different approach, I'd regard it as the exception, not the rule.

Would the Trueborn be any more accepting of a half-born that has attained the rank of Archon by his/her own hand? It seems that the Dracon is no more likely to suffer from assassination than an Archon. Or is this only accepted because each band of Warriors (with their Sybarites) and Trueborn (with their Dracons) are essentially closed communities that don't accept outsiders into these private circles while the Archon is outside of these cliques and above them all.

HappyDaze said:

It's unlikely - primarily because such groups tend to be led by one of their own who has risen to power through cunning, ruthlessness and (commonly) murder. An outsider, of any kind, is ill-positioned to become Dracon of a band of Trueborn by merit of being an outsider.

My stock answer in cases like this is "it'd be so rare as to be essentially unhead of" - I'm not likely to include such a thing, and while you're welcome to take a different approach, I'd regard it as the exception, not the rule.

Would the Trueborn be any more accepting of a half-born that has attained the rank of Archon by his/her own hand? It seems that the Dracon is no more likely to suffer from assassination than an Archon. Or is this only accepted because each band of Warriors (with their Sybarites) and Trueborn (with their Dracons) are essentially closed communities that don't accept outsiders into these private circles while the Archon is outside of these cliques and above them all.

I may be wrong, but I think it isn't dissimilar to Imperial nobility. You may be a genius, an accomplished winner, even the best at what you do. You may have even saved Cadia and by extension the Imperium thanks to your cunning and tactical acumen. But to the nobles you will always be fundamentally inferior because you weren't a noble to begin with.

HappyDaze said:

Would the Trueborn be any more accepting of a half-born that has attained the rank of Archon by his/her own hand? It seems that the Dracon is no more likely to suffer from assassination than an Archon. Or is this only accepted because each band of Warriors (with their Sybarites) and Trueborn (with their Dracons) are essentially closed communities that don't accept outsiders into these private circles while the Archon is outside of these cliques and above them all.

To become an Archon through assassination - and more importantly, to stay there for any length of time, because a new and unestablished Archon is a target - is difficult and dangerous. Those who endure in such a role are grudgingly accepted by all those below them because they have triumphed… but only until someone else comes along with the ambition, will and prowess to change that (or until that new Archon crosses the wrong rival - threats come from every direction).

After nine page of people arguing about 10 pages of the adventure book, I got to ask.

How is the adventure in the book? Good? Bad? Is it book 1 of 3 or is it a whole adventure into 3 'scenarios'? How does it work, lay it down for me…

Braddoc said:

After nine page of people arguing about 10 pages of the adventure book, I got to ask.

How is the adventure in the book? Good? Bad? Is it book 1 of 3 or is it a whole adventure into 3 'scenarios'? How does it work, lay it down for me…

I recommend giving it a look yourself.

That said, it's linear as hell, even moreso than a published adventure normally is. The PC's ship(s) will probably never come up, there's a portion where they're stripped of all gear, and it just doesn't gel nicely with a lot of campaigns. It really seems like making it a Dark Eldar Handbook would've been a better choice.

Anyone came up with a writable character sheet for Soul Reaver/Dark Eldar yet?

On the subject of Dracons I think it's important not on overfocusing on the Dark Eldar codex's order of battle. The 3rd Edition Dark Eldar Codex lists Dracons as lieutenants of Archons, as does the entry on Archons in the 5th Edition Codex, and the novel Path of the Renegade . If we take into consideration the Trueborn's status as the kabal's best trained and best equipped troops, then it makes sense that they are lead into battle by a Dracon. Such an asset would best be served with strong and capable leadership and anything less than a Dracon would have difficulty exerting his or her authority over such a group of arrogant and privileged killers.

As for Trueborn/Halfborn status issues, the mighty Vect proclaimed himself Dracon of his fledgling kabal back when noble houses ruled the Dark Eldar and he then proceeded to overthrow his would be masters and establish himself as the mightiest force in the Dark City, changing its social order to suit himself. So yes, it is possible for a lowborn to be proclaimed Dracon or Archon, it's just easier if you're Trueborn. How much easier? Depends on the kabal. A haughty remnant of the once ruling noble houses is going to place a lot more emphasis on family and heritage than a bunch of pirates and mercenaries who have clawed their way up from the depths to proclaim themselves a kabal.