What I was told at my local shop is the same reason they make MTG cards with white, to give more value to the older black border cards.

What was the reason MtG cards have been switched from black to white borders? I am just curious to know why that happens.

That was why,in MTG to give the black border cards more value. Its only in the reprint packs that they are white bordered, although the foil cards in the edition (reprints) sets have black borders, making them all the more valuable. Oh well.

Well, it's nice to think that the black borders will be the more valuable. That looks to be mitigated by the ability to use the equivalent card reprinted.

Well, actually the boarder thing in Magic was that it was to set the "core set" apart as a beginner's sets, and the advanced sets would be black boardered. But that's gone now as the Core Sets in Magic are all black boardered, and have turned into "non-Core" sets now. They just shifted them to not only be yearly, but being half reprints-half new cards. So, yes, even WOTC does dramatic things once and a while. Consider that the Core Sets came out twice yearly and was 300 cards of nothing but reprints for the last fifteen years, that's big news.

As for COC, after I asked why the white boarders, in a very general conversation, that the new card stock used didn't respond well to the black ink used along the boarders, and tended to show ugly wearing quicker than the old cards did. Why/when/how or any details other than that I wasn't told. Needless to say, I'd rather have white boardered cards than black boardered ones that become white boardered after several uses.

Pandafarmer said:

Yeah me too, thats just a really wierd thing te happen! I was actually confused about the cards before I opened the box I was under the impression you could use all (or some at least) of your old CoC ccg cards I hadnt realized they had different backs. Maybe with protectors on them you can use them? Or is that illegel in play?

Mixing is illegal for the only existing supported tournament type.

We don't really know if other tournament will support mixing. Some people claim that a white border only environment is to b expected in a year or so. Some claim the opposite.

After my first games with the new core set i have to admit that the white borders don´t disturb my playing experience as far as i had expected. Although i´m still looking for a way to sleeve the new cards to cover the white borders, the game is still the same and i´m willing to buy even more of the white-bordered cards. I don´t think FFG will ever change back to black so i guess it´s kind of 'accept it or leave it but stop complaining'.

Regardless of preference, does anyone mix without worrying about sleeving them? It's not like your opponent is likley to memorize all of your cards.

Blutsteigen said:

No, but you memorized your deck. Being able to see which type of card is next on your deck can influence you action this turn and on the next. The only way mixed cards should be allowed in any kind of tournament or semi-serious play is with opaque sleeves. Let's not forget the ugliness at Gen Con with the deck stacking, unsleeved mixed cards is close to the same thing.

didnt that vampires game allow unsleeved cards if your deck was 50/50 or something like that??? but yeah....i could see not forcing sleeves in a highlander setting with nothing more than 40/60 ratio. lets hope sleeves will be required for furture toruneys

Blutsteigen said:

I think it's more of a worry when you are playing in a "sanctioned" tournament. Kitchen table wackiness, however, all bets are off besides what you and your buddies decide.

I've only just noticed this thread and just thought I'd drop in and say that I really don't have a problem with the white borders. In fact I actually like the fact that you can easily identify the LCG cards from the CCG cards.

I must say that I also find the FFG CEO to be rather aggressive on the few occasions that he decides to grace us with his presence. Whilst I understand that getting a lot of insults or "threats" from so called fans can become tiresome and unpleasant, I do feel that responding in kind from the CEO is unwelcome as well. After all, the customers are the people that keep companies like FFG in business.

I do, however, appreciate Mr Petersen recognizing (possibly inadvertantly) that my complaint, about the inner tray of the core set being unnacceptable, was a valid complaint...

"Trying to somehow bully us, call us names, whine, or claim the right to demand anything of FFG (other than properly produced packaging and components), is misguided at best."

Thank you for that Mr Petersen.

Pandafarmer said:

Yes but explaining the tangible problem was appreciated, as I honestly did not consider it. As for this issue for me pesonally, I'll have to discuss it w/ my game club.

Kitchen table wackiness he he

Don't see much of a problem with the white borders of the cards. Changing the backs is far more annoying. I've collected the game since it first came out and the sudden change to the back of the new cards feels like a slap. It would be nice to be able to mix the cards for casual play without sleeves. I know FFG doesn't care if they lose a player here or there but at what point should they actually listen to their player base. Mr. Petersen has every right to be frustrated with constant complaining but a little diplomacy would be nice.