Robert Baratheon Core Set

By MrFixit, in 2. AGoT Rules Discussion

I was wondering if it was intended that Robert Baratheon of the Core Set has no "King" Trait.

Given that he even has a crown on his head in the illustration and that of all the other "Kings" in ASoIaF he is one of the more legitimate ones.

I then thought maybe its an error and looked in the erata and i even found an entry for that card - BUT its just that the cardnumber is wrong.

But he works well with other Baratheon Kings this way as he doesn't stand in their way.. for example Renly baratheon: "Renown.If Renly Baratheon is the only House Baratheon King character in play, he gains: "Reduce the cost to play other House Baratheon characters by 1."

As it happens, all other versions (in the LCG) of Robert have the King trait. Maybe he's supposed to be from before the Trident. As for who is a legitimate king in Westeros… Robert did take the throne by force, even if he proved a better king than Aerys and held his crown far longer than any of the other kings alive in the books.

It is intentional. Not all versions of a character have the same traits. Some, but not all, of the versions of Joffrey, for example, have the "king" trait.

Traits are a mechanism for cards to interact with one another, not necessarily a method for expressing the books. For example, some versions of Brienne have the "knight" trait, something one can argue as appropriate or not (depending on whether you argue "Westerosi law" or "practical result").

The real story, I'd wager, is that it is a reprint of a CCG card from long before the "king" trait was introduced into the game.

MrFixit said:

I was wondering if it was intended that Robert Baratheon of the Core Set has no "King" Trait.

Given that he even has a crown on his head in the illustration and that of all the other "Kings" in ASoIaF he is one of the more legitimate ones.

I then thought maybe its an error and looked in the erata and i even found an entry for that card - BUT its just that the cardnumber is wrong.

But he works well with other Baratheon Kings this way as he doesn't stand in their way.. for example Renly baratheon: "Renown.If Renly Baratheon is the only House Baratheon King character in play, he gains: "Reduce the cost to play other House Baratheon characters by 1."

Core Set Stannis also has a crown on his head but only has the Lord trait. And he an effect that (akin to the later 'only-King in play' effects) is only operative when your opponent has no Lords . Unlike Robert, I don't think believe he's a CCG reprint (or at least, I can't find that version of Stannis in a CCG db). So one must assume FFG had a reason to wait to bring the King trait mechanics into the game.

Amuk said:

Unlike Robert, I don't think believe he's a CCG reprint (or at least, I can't find that version of Stannis in a CCG db). So one must assume FFG had a reason to wait to bring the King trait mechanics into the game.
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The "reprint" theory is supported a bit by the fact that the CS-Dany, a completely new card, did have the Queen trait, but the CS-Cersei, a reprint from the Valyrian Edition of the CCG, does not.

ktom said:

Amuk said:

Unlike Robert, I don't think believe he's a CCG reprint (or at least, I can't find that version of Stannis in a CCG db). So one must assume FFG had a reason to wait to bring the King trait mechanics into the game.

He is a reprint. The original was in the Ice & Fire edition.

The "reprint" theory is supported a bit by the fact that the CS-Dany, a completely new card, did have the Queen trait, but the CS-Cersei, a reprint from the Valyrian Edition of the CCG, does not.

Ah. Thanks.

Would I be safe in assuming he also predates the King mechanic?

Amuk said:

Would I be safe in assuming he also predates the King mechanic?