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i've been told to shut up and stop giving away deck ideas and posting decks. perhaps some people feel threatened??

i'll never make it to a major tournament so i'll leave you with a snippet from my super secret squirrel deck and then leave you all to it.

THE SILVER SERPENTS

uroborus

ritual of summoning

initiate of huang hun

marcus jamburg

COCLCG said:

By who?

And to those who did, they can snack a ****.

hmm. COCLCG, i'm with hellfury on this one. whoever is msging you about that should scurry back into whatever hole they crawled out of. what you are doing is ABSOLUTELY an integral part of making this game more popular. any game that relies on ignorance and secrecy amongst its players is one headed for failure.

i cannot believe the message you got represents how most forum members, who seem to be pretty great people, feel about you and your posts.

i will admit it took me some time to get used to the random, schizophrenic quality of your posts, replies, etc. (which you fully acknowledge is due to your bipolar personality) but the effort in following them is well worth my time for the great thoughts and enthusiasm you put into them.

hellfury really says it better than i did. snack a ****, indeed.

The community here has always been friendly, so I can't imagine anyone on this forum would say that or feel threatened by deck lists posted online - just the opposite. We want more deck lists and more conversation!

I hope you reconsider, but in case you don't, I appreciate the contributions and enthusiasm you've brought to the board.

thanks you nice people.

i guess they just caught me by surprise and sent me on a downer. yes the people who post are all really good but it annoys me when so called 'veterans' ignore you or rebuke you (and never seem to post themselves).

the thing is i don't really care about titles and just enjoy the game, want to develop the competition and increase its popularity. a title means squat anyway, because the 'world' champion in any field has never truly taken on the world, and the luck of the draw plays an important part in any game. 'like my pa used to say, there's always someone bigger than you my bouy'

i'll try and not let one ****** stop my random, schizophrenic postings.

back to the game!!

BTW. what are the thoughts on the SILVER SERPENTS?? bound for the 'limit once per phase' errata page?

Without a deck list it is hard to say. A wicked combo that can't fit into a tier 1 deck is not really in need of an errata or restriction unless it creates an utter NPE in social games. If it is wrecking shop at the tournament level and winning with significant numbers then that is another thing entirely.

Don't post deck ideas? That's ridiculous.

I'm kind of with Penfold here, a few cards together aren't a deck and it's not sufficient to tell how things will work out in an actual game. Perhaps if you can post more about the deck and explain what else is going on with it?

agreed, and it needs some severe playtesting to find out if its practical. only made it a couple of days ago. it just seems unfair that once you have 2 serpents in discard and uroborus and ritual of summoning are down then unless the opponent has a support destruction, all characters in hand can be played for no cost in one phase (not necessarily the operations phase). add huang hun and all opponent characters are back in hand in one phase (possibly the story phase). add marcus jamburg and all supports in discard are back on the table in one phase. and thats EVERY phase until its removed. ouchie momma!! of course cthulhu also has DOA and get it off to remove snow graves cheaply, and twilight has many cards to bring the ritual forward in the game. will be interesting to see when i take it to a mates (he's in the middle of exams right now). i'll leave the entire deck list for now so others can play around with it too.

im sure someone will find a nice easy fix for it and ive just gone a bit gaa gaa over it for the moment, and the carpathian?? (ebla restored) will certainly bring it down quite quickly (unless jamburg is in hand as well). so much recursion and deck searching in the new packs!! i kinda like it as it removes some of the 'luck of the draw' involved. gonna be a random, cards coming and going from everywhere game though!

one things for sure, im definately keeping the shub/yog recursion SD / t.chthonian deck handy!!

COCLCG said:

I don't think that is so strong combo. You need 2 serpents + Uroborus to your discard pile to make it work. There are no cards which puts huge amounts of cards in the discard pile. You can get infinite number of counters to Ritual of Summoning with Uroborus. After that you can play Marcus infinite times to do some crazy stuff like drawing your whole deck with Forbidden Knowledge or clear most of the table with Ice Shaft. There might be some combo to win game with Marcus instantly but I didn't find it yet.

I feel the combo is too hard to make tho. I would just stick with playing Marcus and clearing board with Dimensional Rift in opponents story phase every turn.

Surreal said:

not sure i understand how you're drawing marcus infinite times without the combo, or if with the combo is what you meant. it's not an early combo thats for sure but the ritual itself puts the required serpents in discard. 2 on the table (degenerate / brood) and uroborus and ritual in hand make it happen to at least play all characters in hand out for free no matter their cost (provided no support destruction which should be the only way to stop it). that's the basics of the combo anyway. the others are just add-ons if you're lucky. just so it's clear, uroborus sacrifices and revives infinite times in the same phase i do believe. as i said, it's early days and i put it up here exactly so this could happen. i good chat about the possibilities. but you're right, i think i may have gone loopy (er) when it occured to me. i generally don't think before i post so perhaps i should start……… i'm sure there's other loops out there too i've not investigated yet (st.eramus's home) and boiling it down, that's all i really want to discuss.

as for marcus himself, instant character destructions will definately be needed or (once again - haha) recursion support destructions with t.chthonians !! (you'll never hear the end of it i'm afraid) the dimensional rift combo is nice but sorry to say there's many more ways to destroy it than the above mentioned as it has to last through to the opponents turn.

COCLCG said:

You need Marcus in hand to get it going. Play Ritual of Summoning -> Sac 2x serpents to Ritual of Summoning -> Put Uroborus in play with response -> Sac Uroborus to Ritual of Summoning -> go infinite success tokens to Ritual of Power with Uroborus. This combo is not needed to do in one turn. You can play serpents earlier turns also. Then combo continues in one single turn: infinite success tokens on Ritual of Summoning -> Put Marcus into play -> Put Uroborus into play insane -> Return Marcus to your hand with the action to put Forbidden Knowledge from discard pile (or play it) to play on Uroborus -> Sac Uroborus to Forbidden Knowledge to draw 4 cards -> repeat this as much you want to. You can also use some other support cards like Ice Shaft.

haha - nice. if if's and but's were candy and nuts, we'd all have a merry tournament!!

ERRATA - above post should've been temple of ry'leh not st eramus' home, which doesn't work anyway as an insane character has no faction.