Some random thoughts and balance predictions

By HERO, in Dust Warfare

I'll put aside two facts, (Armor 5 is going to be hard to kill & my Laser units have done phenominally well for me), if the same formula is applied to the stats from the Herman in transferring it to the Wotan, the Wotan will have a 40" range 2/3 weapon against all vehicles. But it's point cost will be more in the 60 realm for the AR (Armor 5) variant. Still, worth it to me for a range 40" 2/3 vs armor, with a chance to reroll first hits. Potential (granted very lucky) chance to get 12 points damage on one attack. Easy to do sustained from 40" too. That Napalm throwers going to have to spend two-three rounds moving into range, while eating laser shots. More if it hides behind terrain to make it up. By then, I'm going to own my objectives. gran_risa.gif

Truthfully, I get what you say about laser-nerf from DT to DW. However, I thought it'd be horrible, but in actual play thus far for me, I haven't noticed them underperforming. Especially when I add Sigrid to a unit. However, I haven't tried the Herman, nor am I likely to, as LGs are better for 1 more point, and the Hans is easily the best 25 points I own, so the other two Axis lights are pretty hard to justify.

I just think the Wotan is going to do quite well.

Denied said:

sourclams said:

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Kommissar Zeitsev said:

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sourclams said:

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Shadow4ce said:

Still, worth it to me for a range 40" 2/3 vs armor, with a chance to reroll first hits.

Truthfully, I get what you say about laser-nerf from DT to DW. However, I thought it'd be horrible, but in actual play thus far for me, I haven't noticed them underperforming.

Why would it be R36+? The model itself really looks like two Laserkanonen. If it's some sort of Schwer-Laserkanone with 2/3 v armor from 36", then yeah, I agree that's pretty good… but still a very tough buy at 60.

I think that lasers need the DT true exploding dice to be fairly priced, as is I think they are overcosted by 5-10 points simply because of how useless they are vs. infantry. That said, I do take the heavy laser grenadiers. They're the only non-superheavy option axis has for reliably dealing with the Fireball. I do not 'like' them, but they are far from 'bad'.

sourclams said:

Shadow4ce said:

Still, worth it to me for a range 40" 2/3 vs armor, with a chance to reroll first hits.

Truthfully, I get what you say about laser-nerf from DT to DW. However, I thought it'd be horrible, but in actual play thus far for me, I haven't noticed them underperforming.

Why would it be R36+? The model itself really looks like two Laserkanonen. If it's some sort of Schwer-Laserkanone with 2/3 v armor from 36", then yeah, I agree that's pretty good… but still a very tough buy at 60.

I think that lasers need the DT true exploding dice to be fairly priced, as is I think they are overcosted by 5-10 points simply because of how useless they are vs. infantry. That said, I do take the heavy laser grenadiers. They're the only non-superheavy option axis has for reliably dealing with the Fireball. I do not 'like' them, but they are far from 'bad'.

It is indeed a "Schwere Lasor Kanone Zwei" weapon system. I'm extrapolating the range from the DT cards. A Herman's Laser Kanone is 6 in DT, 24" in DW. The Wotan DT card states range 10, making it 40" in DW, although, I could see them making it 36" or even 30" as some range U (Unlimited) in DT is 36" in DW. As far as the 2/3 goes, that's what the Wotan shows in DT, and thevHerman kept the same dice stats from DT to DW. Obviously I'm speculating, but I'm speculating with education. gui%C3%B1o.gif