Regarding the question of Red Vengeance and Twist Of Fate

By LUCAS_LI, in 2. AGoT Rules Discussion

When player A revealed Twist Of Fate plot. Player B declare a military challenge as attacker.And Player B win this challenge. Player A play Red Vengeance. So the question is Player B should decide the effict of Twist Of Fate first.Or the play A should play Red Vengeance before player B decide the effect of Twist Of Fate.

LUCAS_LI said:

When player A revealed Twist Of Fate plot. Player B declare a military challenge as attacker.And Player B win this challenge. Player A play Red Vengeance. So the question is Player B should decide the effict of Twist Of Fate first.Or the play A should play Red Vengeance before player B decide the effect of Twist Of Fate.

Conversely, if the person whom Red Vengeance chooses to settle claim has Twist of Fate revealed, the attacker would choose the claim effect for that new player, even if the original defender (and player of Red Vengeance) did not have Twist of Fate revealed.

Thank you for your help.

Another question with two cards if PLAYER A is a attacker and PLAY A revealed Twist Of Fate plot.Then when Player A win a challenge with Play B,Play B play Red Vengeance. How to decide the effect.

And the "instead of"effect is played in which step?If in step four is too late.So when to declar this "instead of" effect. Before Red Vengeance.Or after Red Vengeance.

LUCAS_LI said:

Another question with two cards if PLAYER A is a attacker and PLAY A revealed Twist Of Fate plot.Then when Player A win a challenge with Play B,Play B play Red Vengeance. How to decide the effect.

LUCAS_LI said:

Another question with two cards if PLAYER A is a attacker and PLAY A revealed Twist Of Fate plot.Then when Player A win a challenge with Play B,Play B play Red Vengeance. How to decide the effect.

"Conversely, if the person whom Red Vengeance chooses to settle claim has Twist of Fate revealed, the attacker would choose the claim effect for that new player, even if the original defender (and player of Red Vengeance) did not have Twist of Fate revealed."

So again, if the person chosen to settle claim by Red Vengeance has "Twist of Fate" revealed, the attacker chooses what type of claim to resolve - even if the attacker is chosen to settle claim.

LUCAS_LI said:

And the "instead of"effect is played in which step?If in step four is too late.So when to declar this "instead of" effect. Before Red Vengeance.Or after Red Vengeance.

Red Vengeance resolves in 2, saying that claim resolves for a different player. Then, in 3, claim resolves.

I mean "Twist Of Fate" have a "instead of " effect.So when to declar the effect of "Twist Of Fate" effect.

LUCAS_LI said:

I mean "Twist Of Fate" have a "instead of " effect.So when to declar the effect of "Twist Of Fate" effect.