Maybe this is not the pleace but when not here then where? The line has slowed down and it looks like we will be getting only 2 maybe 3 box expansions a year and some PODs between them. So maybe we, fans, can tell what are our expactations for the line. Maybe someone from FFG will read it and so we will see the products that we would like to see. On my wish list are:

• Athel Loren (about Wood Elves)
• Bretonia (with Graal Knight, Damsels, Honour Codex and there point of seeing the world, maybe this could be even in oner box with Athel Loren)
• Legends & Myths of the Old World ( like the title says about legends, muth and fairy tales from the Old World, this could also future some exotic monsters like Chimera or even this could also be about Skaven & Fimir)
• Ulthuan (about High Elves and Dark Elves)
• The Lost & Damned (for players who would like to play a really bad characters with special Chaos careers)
• Kislev & Norsca (about this cold countries and the people living there)

I hope that maybe someone from WFRP design team will read it and think about those for future expansions.

Thanks to everyone who will leave a few words here.

Cheers.

B.E.

I vote for Wood Elves, High Elves, Kislev and maybe another one for dwarfs.

Thumbs up for more about Elves - particularly High Elf Magic and Healing.

I'd love to see an elf title, it's a subject that hasn't seen much attention in 1st and 2nd ed so that would be fun. An actual fluff book about the empire with little or no rules in it accompanied by a vault. Brettonia box of course .

UncleArkie said:

Now the Elves have attention I think this is wrong topic to mention this, but check out WFRP2 fan-source about Wood Elves (and this is JUST beta-release): Defenders of the Fores

Don't know is there any ideas to expand the rules to other versions…

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But as you said UncleArkie - I think good racial and region books (less game-mechanics, more fluff and more adventure/campaign ideas) would be good.

Beren Eoath said:

Don't know will that ever happen (altough Kislev was nicely covered by WFRP2 and Norsca little too), but do check my site. I have build rules-free Norsca Sourcebook: Norsca

And - Soon there will be WFRP3 specified rules for that too…

I don't really get into the whole fan-material. I recognise that there is a lot of good, solid writing out there and that in a lot of cases the fan stuff is better than the official write-up's. But I tend to not count them in and in that case we haven't had any official elfspansion besides the 5 pages about high magic in the original 'Realm Of Sorcery' and the two article in WD 88 and 89 regarding war dancers. That article btw had great illustrations.

Now I'm actually not much of an elf fan myself, I generally dislike having too many non-humans in my game since it spoils the mystery. But it would be good to know more.

Some kind of Merchant expansion with rules for River and land trade, details on Marienburg, Location cards, ++ would've been cool.

Also, something on Sylvania and the Vampire Counts.

alskiyevski said:

Check out Ralph Seller's trade and smuggling rules in LF8, if you haven't already: www.liberfanatica.net/LF8download.html

I realise fan material lacks the "official stamp" that some people desire, but just in case you weren't aware it existed…

I don't mind fan made material at all. Thanks for the tip

I'd be happy with an elf supplement but I think a Kislev one would be great too since I'm running a campaign soon up in Praag.

But really, all the ideas the OP listed are good and I think FFG will come up with something great. People were asking about Enemy Within so what do FFG do? Announce the Enemy Within campaign. If we are all on the boards talking about elves, Kislev, Brettonia, and such I'm sure FFG will take the hint and get cracking on something So let's keep it up guys!

Elf book, definitely. Very much needed. Wood elves get very little love in the career options to date.

If you are looking strictly for fluff, Warhammer 2 had lots of good material. Sigmar's Heirs detailed the Empire very well. Night's Dark Masters detailed Sylvania, Realm of the Ice Queen was an excellent guide to Kislev and Knights of the Grail for Brettonia.

The Army Books for Warhammer Battles often have lots of good fluff. i have High Elf, Wood Elf and Dark Elf army books strictly for the fluff. Histories, maps etc.

None of these add any cards, playable careers or anything like that but they are full of great histories and details.

But, it is challenging in 3rd to play an Elf. So perhaps a "Black Fire Pass" for the Elves would be a good thing. Like UnkleArkie I'm not a fan of players as elves, but as a GM the material is nice to have and if a player can back up his Elf with a good story and reason to be in the game, then a supplement gives the player material to help him/her convince me to let him/her play one.

Although I am using my own high elf material, and I hope soon some one will translate the Defenders of the Forest great stuff to the 3rd edition (any one out there to do it?) , I do agree that the community is in need of at least one elf supplement (if not two).

Nonetheless, I hope it will be a better one than Black Fire Pass, since in my opinion, apart may be from the engineering rules, it was quite disappointing; only a few careers (none of them elite), a few runes, very limited and narrow background (at least this was covered in previous editions and army books).

I add to the wish list a second Creature Guide, or a creature box.

Yepesnopes said:

Well, the work (excellent work) you have done allready with the High Elves - Why not take the ball for Wood Elves too? Use the book as reference? I dont think anybody would mind…

Also agree you with the Black Fire Pass info. Many sourcebooks/boxes, for example Black Fire Pass, could have little (or alot) more info/fluff. It would have been easy to put all the runes there for example… I'm sure that activated you - And your runes are nice addition again.

As the GM for my group I wouldn't mind some more creatures (can never have enough). As for my players, the two biggest things I ALWAYS get asked about are:

1. Bretonnian Knights

2. High Elf Wizards

I want "advanced combat" rules: body locations etc.

The obvious thing is an elf supplement of course.

But after that I would rather that they don't spread the background to Bretonia, Kislev or Norsca so soon, but rather come up with one or two more source boxes for the Empire. I don't feel that it is covered already as it should be. Of course you can use material from 1st and 2nd editions if you have them, but I believe that there are still a lot of "empirical" things that should be covered with 3rd edition mechanics. Like a lot of creatures, locations, cards to handle trade, rules for travelling (with encounter tables). I would very much like to see some kind of Gazeteer (like Sigmar's Heirs) in a 3rd edition approach and -- the summit of source books -- a city sourcebook (like Sold down the river or City of the White Wolf).

If I think more about it, what I would really like: A fat hardcover book about the Empire with tons of fluff in it: An overall gazeteer, articles about special topics like trade, travelling, crime, sample factions and characters, sample buildings, one or two cities in some more detail, new creatures (like the eel for example). Something like the books for W40k. Let's call it Empirial Compendium. And accompanying that an extra box with all the creature, action, location, items, trade, encounter cards and faction sheets and what not. The Empirial Vault. I think I would like that. And they could sell the Compendium also to people who only want the fluff and don't want the cards and stuff.

And after that Kislev, Bretonia, Lustria.

I would like to personally see the following types of expansions.

First and foremost I would like to see a massive, expansive, world shattering EPIC campaign box set. Something that says "Here is a solid 10-15 sessions" worth of epicness. It should include some of the larger than life themes of the Warhammer universe. Demons, Wars, nobility, and of course the all important magic/gods elements. I want to stick the players right in the middle of it all. It should be a tolkien-esq to it.

Next I would love to see a general Warhammer Campaign Setting book that gives us information sufficient to allow the players a more free-open world feel rather than a rather than what it is currently, a rather closterphobic "you can't go there cause I don't know anything about it" kind of feel. There are certain places like Ubersreik that are extremly well defined, which is great as a homebase to give the world a real sense of existance and I think that was a very wise firs step for FFG to take with defining the world for us. But now I think its time to spread out and really give us the meat and potatoes of this world in one LARGE..: FAT… EPIC set. Price is no object!

Finally one of my favorite topics in the world of Warhammer is Tomb Kings and I would sell my left testilce for an adventure the world of the undead Tomb Kings.

1) First High Elf & Dark Elf expansion

2) Epic Campaign

3) Wood Elf & Beastmen expansion both need to be covered.

4) Tome of Nagash: a complete guide to all things that go bump in the night, including careers, actions, spells, blessings and items for people fighting against the undying hordes.

5) The art of Waaagh!! As above but for Greenskins, never to my knowledge have they been properly covered in WFRP.

6) The Forbidden & The Forgotten: A guide to various cults, that are less common, to those edging towards heresy and those that are out right blasphemous. This could be be split with lore and gamey bits for witch hunters and Knights Templers

7)Guide to the under empire: as above but for all things squeaky with whiskers.

8) Sprinkle with more scenarios, and maybe another epic campaign.

crimsonsun

BigKahuna said:

Check out Lure of the Liche Lord for 2e, thats as Tomb kingy as your likely to find, I doubt it would be hard to convert into 3ed.

Lautrer said:

You already have that in the crit system, when you draw a crit card it's head trauma and severed hand, thats pretty specific and it never really mattered where you hit an opponent in the old system before you got to the crits anyway except for the pesky and overtly complex armor/location stuff.

crimsonsun said:

Oooh nice, definitly will check it out.

I already posted, but after reading the post of BigKahuna I want to enlarge my wishlist.

Campaigns, campaigns, campaigns….

The mutant /chaos menace it is already very much trashed. I would like to see campaings where the menace comes from other surces like an orc campaign, dark elves campaign, Skaven, Undead….

and last but not least…I want the fan scenario contest back!!!!!!

First of all I wnat to thank You all for sharing a few word in this topic. I think that looking at that we will have The Enemy Within campain just like fans wanted there is a chance that we will also might get other expansions that we think are interesting and worth to cover.

I readed all Youre posts and anted to update my wish list. At the top are those expansions that I would like to most see in the near future:

1. Bretonia (becouse it's so different then the Empire)
2. Athel Loren (Wood Elves did not get to much love in any edition and are not covered to good but are a part of the Old World and Bretonia)
3. Legends & Myths of the Old World ( some thing like a new monsters, myths, cults or maybe a book dedicated to Skaven & Fimir)
4. Vampires (maybe in a campain but still with some new special careers to fight the Lords Of Night, and more necromancy - in The Edge Of Night we got just a taste)
5. Ulthuan (ah yes, the famous High Elves and there biggest enemy - Dark Elves, it should be covered very good)
6. The Lost & Damned (for players who would like to play a really bad characters with special Chaos careers)
7. Kislev & Norsca (about this cold countries and the people living there)

Of course every expansions should bring new careers and whats more importent for me new monsters.

Maybe at Gen Con or after it we will see some news of whats comming after The Enemy Within.

And until then happy gaming to all,

Cheers WFRP fans

B.E.

PS. If I'm right next week we should hear and see a new PoD for WFRP - some new spells I guess.