I know this will sound weird but my Favorite is Glorifindel. I love him in the book, i love him when i see the game in internet first time(1 year ago) and i still love him now cose he is really cool in my opinion as a hero and art as well.

Glaurung said:

Yeah I have always found this wired me out G… I really think he so expensive threat wise. I always like low threat heroes. He is is versatile.. sure.. But having high attack means nothing if you are using his questing his defence sucks and he has a resource drain on him though his ability.. something that we have a few options to replicate like that new healing card that has no cost.

You can swap him out for a a dedicated quester or attacker and have them do it just as well for a fraction of the threat…

Am I the only one in the world who really loves destroying enemies at once with that mighty Dwarf son of Gloin? A Dwarven Axe and a Citadel Plate makes him look like Hulk in the mood! To say the truth I have to choose between Lore and Tactics Sphere as I generally play 2 or 3 players games and my teammates take Leadership and Spirit. Lately I start to really appreciate Boromir and his readying and rereadying ability! And of course I rarely remain Bilbo-less! Just bring me some Trolls!!!

yeah i do get an enormous amount of satisfaction 1-turning the hill troll

I love both Hobbits and all of the dwarfs. Bifur most of all. Right now Loragorn is on his way to the top. But let's face it - the best of them all is…

Théodred

While I enjoy playing Frodo, I have to say Thalin is my favorite hero. Low threat and can deal a bunch of damage during the staging phase while committing to the quest. And now with the new spirit attachment that readies a dwarf when you go to an underground or mountain location he is going to be 10x better (at least in this cycle).

leptokurt said:

Either this needs some explaining, or I'm just missing the joke.

me to…c'mon leptokurt…let us in on the joke

Théodred is a hero that is a big in help in every deck. C'mon, one extra resource is probably the best support action except of Beravor's neverending card supply. He makes every deck easier to play and guarantees excellent results. Loragorn and Théodred isone of the most powerful hero combos so far, far better than Coragorn and Theo. Another awesome combo: Théodred + Bilbo. And: Théodred + Éowyn. He basically rocks in combination with spirit and lore, both spheres that have awesome, but expensive cards. He makes 3 sphere decks playable. Théodred + Bifur = Gildor out in round 2!

Plus: he gives you access to Steward of Gondor and Sneak Attack, two of the best cards in this game!

loraragorn and coragorn…….thats too much fight to figure out how to say….ill stick with tolkiens words….good enough for me…anyways i digress, my point i came here to say is that i have never found theodred that great. now this is probably down to my sucky ability but still, i have tried several times to get anywhere with him..just not my type of guy i guess

Theodred's ability is good, and it is useful that he has access to Steward of Gondor, but his willpower alone won't get you through the quest phase, which means you'll be committing at least two heroes to the quest. Then you have only one hero to attack/defend. BUT, if you build your deck right, the allies should be able to compensate for the low willpower, and you could use Dunedain Quest and Celebrian's stone to pump up his willpower. Okay, you're right, he is a great hero. I just never thought I'd see him as a favorite.

Budgernaut said:

He just gives you a good feeling - you don't only have awesome cards in your hand, you can even play them all! Btw I am always committing at least two heroes to the quest at the beginning of the game. If I have Frodo (sometimes even without him), all three. But its's true, using Théodred means a slow start, but the WP then accelerates quickly. I played a secrecy deck against Road to Rivendell with Théodred and Bilbo (and Arwen, obviously). It worked pretty well.

I think Théodred is the best leadership hero so far and maybe one of the best heroes overal. 1 Willpower okay, but 2 ressourcen each turn and don't forget, you can give the extra resource to any heros who is commited to the quest. In my deck i have about 85% allies so the 2 points of missing willpower are fixed in no time. And I'm playing solo without spirit

ok firstly this is coming from a solo player whose main play style revolves around card and resource draw…..despite this i just dont see anything going for theodred…you have to commit him to the quest to get the resource- in my books this is too much to ask of a 1 willpower hero, especially when fielding leadership you can get out steward prettty quickly with a fast draw which can give you 2 extra free per turn….i would say id save him for something else, but as his stats are also poor….this coupled with what (in my opinion) is actually one of the weaker hero abilities, make him my least played hero

in all my games i manage to have an abundance of resources, always without theodred, and with the new resourceful card, i think the chances of him seeing play in my games are now non existant….its just a waste of a hero slot in my opinion…which taking some of the replies on this thread of course is far different to what many think

guess he just doesnt suit my play style….plus the art is one of the rare examples of which i dislike….(which in my books is a good enough reason )

With Theodred and SoG you get a resource rate of 200%! This is huge! I don't care about his low willpower if I'm able to play 2-3 allys per round. Hero stats are overrated if you have around 10+ allys in play and can play several new per round. It simply doesn't matter anymore.

If you have too many ressources, I think, you are doing something wrong

And the resourceful card isn't good if you don't play secrecy. It pays of after 4 rounds. An average game takes me 7 turns so it's not very "resourceful" at all.

My major heroes are Bifur, Beravor and Théodred and they are working really well together. If you want I can give you a decklist and you can try yourself.

i didnt say i had too many resources- just an abundance- the point is i manage this without theodred, allowing me to field more powerfuland more importantly more widely spanning (ie not just resource draw covered, but readying, attack/willpower/defence buffs, card draw etc) combos of heros such as dain and two other dwarves such as bifur and gloin- this is my most winning deck, and with more and more dwarf cards comin out this cycle its getting steadily stronger

and with dain buffing up every dwarf ally's willpower, and with 7+ dwarf allies in at one go i reach the point that your deck has - many allies all paid for, all powering an extremely high willpowered deck…..only difference is there is no theodred so i can utilise other options such as arming all my heros with dwarven axes, erebor boots,dwarf readyin cards such as lure of moria etc in which case you cant with theodred….fair enough you have a large amount of rohan readin cards- but they are spirit- and if you dont field spirit then its no good

so ok ok ok …..ill admit theodred is great in that he is a resource machine…i just would never put him above dain as a more powerful leadership hero, i mean he gives +1 willpower to every dwarf character in play….thats a massive increase…ill just always have other methods that are getting me equal results that i find more desirable in deck synergies

anyways that just my take on it….but everyones different in their ways……and i respect your opinion on him …

also i think answers to this question are bound to change as new cards come out and new ways are found to utilise heros abilites- so there may become a point where i do give in and use him

The other thing that Theodred has going for him is his low starting threat. Aragorn, Imrahil, and Dain all cost 11 or 12. Theodred is only 8. This is actually a main reason for my including Theodred in my decks. Plus, he's great once you can get Celebrian's Stone on him. I haven't tried a cardraw/PoL deck yet. (that is to say, I only tried it on Return to Mirkwood which is not the most forgiving scenario). The decks I play most often are Rohan decks (hence my use of Theodred) and Tactics decks (in which I need resources to pay for expensive attachments). This difference in the decks we use is surely the reason we differ in our opinions of Theodred. I've been saying it for 3 or 4 months now, but I really need to try a Lore deck.

Indeed. I use a secrecy deck in 2-player games with Bifur and Théodred.
The deck is mostly expensive allies. Théodred is wonderful!

Rich, I know you don't like Horsies that much but do give poor Theodred a try one day. He can really accelarate the opening rounds and thus do for his low willpower. Especially with StwB, you shouldn't worry much about willpower once you get the deck going - and he will quest for at least 2. Cheers.

@Rich: I'm playing a dwarf deck with Dain, Bifur and Thalin too. It works really great but the mayor problem is card draw. This was fixed a little bit with this green attachment (sorry, I don't know the englisch name of the cra;) ). But I still have to field Gleowine too to get all the important cards I need. And he isn't feeling too good in a "dwarf" deck. Besides of that you still habe to draw those cards. If you take Beravor, you can draw cards in every case.

So, the dwarve deck is good (and will get better with the last expansions and the hobbit expansion) but you have to build around it to get it going well. I have played both decks a lot and in my conclusion the non-dwarf decks feels a lot better to play.

Offtopic: And about Celebrians Stone: I thought about it on Théodred a lot. Maybe I will include it someday. But at the moment I prefer to play to play an ally like the Hammersmith (is he called this in english?) or something like that for the ressources (with Bifur you are very flexible, so don't worry about the different ressource colors ) You can do a lot more with allies than with attachments in my opinion. Sometimes they don't look as strong as some attachment but there are rarely attachments who can block a troll for a round. I think you get my point. Long story short: allies > attachment (in many cases).

[sry for my englisch, it's not my mothertounge]

/Edit: @cordeirooo: I had this in my mind too. Does it work well? Starting with 15 threat must be great. You have around 5 of 7-8 rounds the secrecy bonus.

FAAx87 said:

Yes! Yes it does!
I made few changes in the deck when moving to KD quests (I am still to play any Dwarrowdelf scenario), it works pretty much from Core to KD.

The other player's deck is what suffered most changes over the quests. In the end, the main problem with the Bifur/Théodred is the lack of draw; I usually end up with lots of expensive allies in play, Bifur with a thousand resources but very few cards in hand, so I added Beravor to the other deck.
It's being doing pretty well so far!

Give it a try, and then post your deck/experiences!

@lleimmoen- yes i have been promising to give him a try for a while now havnt i? i will give him another go with some dedicated deck time taking some of the ideas from this thread

@FAAx87- in regards to the stone - you can only put it only a hero….so i this case i think it would go best on theodred-or whoever is the designated quester

i agree with you, in most cases allies are greater than attatchments / events, though again it does depend what type of deck….though in just about every deck a large proportion needs to be allies- my decks are usually 50% allies 25/25% events/attatchemnets

rich

Do you guys think the new tactics hero is to good? I mean a event fetch each tap? That is CRAZY powerful. Infinite feints.. all you need is to events to power that… combos with people like Watcher of the Bruinen.. we now have character target equipment to boost his attack + revendale blade.

Seams to be out of the box one of the most powerful heroes I have seen at first glance.

yes he is….at first i posted that i thought he was rubbish…but of course i hadnt really thought about it clearly enough and when it was pointed out to me i realised how powerful he was

I'm still undecided as to whether Hama can toss out Legolas or Brand (Boro ain't leaving). Hama lacks Ranged which allows the other two to chip in on attacks against any Enemy in 2-player and still get their abilities into play (even if Brand has to attack another player's Enemy). In a solo game, I can see Hama bumping Lego and/or Brand because Ranged doesn't come into play, but in multi, not sure Hama will see action in my decks.