Nice job! That sounds like it went awesomely well!

it truely is a magical moment when you obliterate a quest for the first time - congrats!

Indeed! Great job! I have so much difficulty with this quest solo. I understand how to win it, I just don't like playing my games the way the scenario begs me too. Anyway, again, great job!

Joseph

Well, this deck is really working out for me (Eowyn, Dunhere, Bilbo). I've now played the Core Set scenarios, the Hunt for Gollum scenarios (not sure if that's the right name), and the Kazhad Dum scenarios.

I can beat everything except Dol Guldor and Return to Mirkwood. Granted, I don't win every time. But I've at least been able to beat all except for those two I mentioned.

***SPOILER TO FOLLOW FOR KHAZAD DUM***

I have mixed feelings about the KD scenarios. Frankly, they're easier than I expected. They went as follows:

• Into the Pit: this was great! One of my most exciting games yet. I didn't peek at the quest cards, so I had no idea that you couldn't play cards from your hand in the last stage of the quest. That was a rude surprise. In the end, Dunhere was dead, Bilbo was dead, and I was down to Eowyn and a Northern Tracker with two enemies engaged. I "sold out" and put them both on the quest, and barely emerged with a victory. Had I not been able to complete the quest right then and there, the opponents would have slaughtered me that round. Whew!
• 7th Level: bottom line: this was an easy win. Kind of disappointing.
• Escape from Moria: another easy win. It was really confusing with all the Stage 2A/2B cards, but I'm 80% sure I played it correctly. But it was easy. I suspect a lot of that had to do with luck about the Quest Deck order of things. Perhaps it could have gone entirely haywire if I had a different order for the quest cards.

On to Redhorn Gate!

Question about Arwen (Objective Card from Redhorn Gate):

• Her card says "After Arwen Undomiel exhausts, choose a hero. Add 1 resource to that hero's resource pool."

I take it that means I can exhaust her for some other thing (Questing, most likely) and still get that Response benefit - and still quest with her. Right? If her card said "Exhaust Arwen TO choose a hero" then that would be different. But since it says "After Arwen exhausts," I assume that you can trigger that response any time she exhausts for any reason.

Make sense?

Yes, you can "only" exhaust her for "some other thing" and get the resource only as a response to it; same with the ally version, obviously.

For me, the three Khazad quests are the only ones I will probably never revisit, I like the Dwarrodelf much better.

i like the khazad dum ones, and i will revist them, but they have to be my least favourite….not sure why, i think its because they are all similar, and because theres really only so many goblin encounter cards you can bear before you get sick of them

which is strange becuase moria was one of my favourite parts of the books - very spooky place- just dont think it goes well as game

Hm, personally I've found that the Khazad-dum quests do just about the best job so far of translating the theme and feel of Middle-earth into gameplay.

Yes, I too loved the part in the books (and the films). But the great thing about it was the feel of unknown which is really hard to recapture in the game.

As for the mechanics, I was not really fond of the total randomness of the Flight, interesting idea but the luck factor has really become the most prominent factor of the game I felt. The last game I played of it was when I beat it with Boromir on round 1, that had never happened to me before on any quest.

The Long Dark really fits the tiles of this thread. I can imagine losing it silly when I get some nastiness early but so for I have beaten it both times I played it without much problem, even though on the second atempt I lost Dúnhere on round one due to the Rock Adder, that really is a nasty enemy - with all the shadow effects boosting attack considerably.

Boromir is quite the worker with the shovel.

muemakan said:

Yes. Haha. I can imagine Denethor had him fill all the coal cellars in the City when he was a child.

And Elfhelm is quite a stud in the Mineshaft. Too bad I cannot really utilize him in a deck. Have others done? He seems too situational for me, even though when he first appeared I felt he'd be great against all the Doomed, certainly better solo I believe.

lleimmoen said:

Do you mean using Elfhelm to clear the Zigil Mineshaft without gaining threat? It's debatable whether this is legal. Consensus here was that it isn't, the point being that Elfhelm deals with threat that comes from an encounter/quest card effect, but the ZM threat gain is a cost (not an effect).

Well, Redhorn Gate kicked my ass. :-)

Hmm, I read elsewhere that it was legal. Interesting, guess it is another one for the ever missing FAQ. This one is hardly my concern though as I do not follow that strategy.

I repeat again though, has anyone had some success with Elfhelm? It has been often I considered him but never really put him in use for a long time.

i remember that when he came out there was talk over whether he could reduce the extra threat gain on return to mirkwood and it ended up he could

I don't know if LotR-LCG really have a 'cost' as an in-game term, other than resource-wise.

I'd say Elfhelm helps in this case.

cordeirooo said:

They absolutely do. p.25 of the rulebook:

Paying Costs
Many cards are written in a “pay or exhaust X to do
Y” manner. When confronted with such a construct,
everything before the word “to” is considered the cost,
and everything after the word “to” is considered an
effect.

radiskull said:

You're right.

In this case, I withdraw my previous comment. It seems that Elfhelm wouldn't work.