1. My GM whines for a week on the FFG forum about his players' cowardice and non-chivalric behavior towards the "innocent."

2. Ten minutes into last night's session we have an early encounter with an old man whose daughter is severely hurt and in need of assistance. My character, being chivalrous of course, offers to help and enters the old man's hovel.

3. My character gets conked on the head and is robbed blind by the old man who is actually a spry, able-bodied thief.

4. The thief is on a ship to Marienburg before I can retaliate.

To my GM: You B*stard!!

Well.. its evil, but not so much your GM is evil, but more in the your GM accuratly portrayed the world of Warhammer evil. Trust no one!

I think he got some good advice about the whole cowardice thing. There is no such thing as a god of cowardice in Warhammer and for good reason, if there where, EVERYONE would be worshiping him and not sigmar.

Eradico Pravus said:

Eradico Pravus said:

I think I would like your GM, at least from what I read from his posts. Said that, there is nowhere writen that PCs should be brave and chivalric, and for sure there are no innocents in the Warhammer world, ask the Witch Hunters and you will see.

Long time ago I lost the hope that my players behave as a group of honorable adventurers, but if you ask them, they will tell you that in the warhammer world you can not trust even your own shadow, and that it was me who drive them to this over-paranoid behaviour…who knows what comes first the egg or the chiken

Remember, there are bold heroes and there are old heroes, but there are no bold and old heroes.

Man, your GM is a rat bastard. I hope he didn't leave you stranded in a swamp in the Wastelands surrounded by Fimir after a shipwreck or anything, cuz that would be REALLY mean.

Honestly, any GM that goes so far as to take the time to throw your character into the action, but without so much as a "saving throw" was either just being lazy or trying to move the story with leaving permanent marks on the skin. Hope for the latter. Chances are, he's probably got something in store for the NPC who escaped. If not, yea, he's just a rat bastard.

As for the warhammerisms, I agree with the former posters about it being the grim and gritty world of Warhammer where /everybody/ has an ulterior motive. Usually it's just to steal your lunch and push you face down in the mud..but sometimes something worse. Sometimes its to steal your soul, and all the souls of the people in a city so they can challenge daemons and gods in the universe..meanwhile, leave you a groaning husk with long-yellowed fingernails, chewed-off portions of your face, and a "serious case of the munchies."

Personally, I'd give him an award though:

jh

Eradico Pravus said:

What a legend! That guy is right on the money. I like to think I'm evil to in some regards, neutral evil though (because that's what all the cool guys are). If that happened in my home group and my "good" player was not there to stop it my party would have robbed that bloke bloke blind and had their way with the kid or if that didn't happen they would get into a fight because one character wouldn't let the other characer kill an od man and assualt his daughter it and maybe even kill each other. I have a high turnover of pc's killed by other pc's in my group thats why I'm taking them out to the border princes for my next campaign, less law for them to be evil with.

On the first adventure I ever done there was the bandit in jail which got them to do a long elaborate revenge quest with the reward of stashed treasure, being fresh out of video games at that point they readily excepted. Took them four sessions and they lost one of their npc friends and sent their other one into a depression because his wife was killed and lost a vital ally for the main plot of the adventure. At the end of it when they asked for a reward the bandit smiled from behind his jail cell and said simply said thanks for the help but he didn't know where they got the treasure Idea from and therefore could not give them anything. They couldn't even get revenge as he was in jail and protected by the law, that made them feel bad for sure!.

BigKahuna said:

Yep, it was my own dang fault. Did not even bother to use my scrutiny card… Arg! Lesson learned.

Emirikol said:

Oh sure, I might get the chance to chase this jerk-thief down.

What a tease! Of course we all know something will happen at the last second that will prevent my revenge!

I'm a sucker… I'll still try anyway!!

And yeah, "Rat Bastard" fits perfectly!!

Which character are you playing if I might know?

Does your GM often use this method of bait and punish without a save?

That's kind of petty.

Yepesnopes said:

Navigator with excellent observation and intuition skills. Felt like a dope after the fact for choosing not to use them!

Necrozius said:

No, not really. He's very fair. Plus he knows our party is foolish and inept enough to get into all sorts of trouble all by ourselves!

Evil? That's not evil, that's just being a proper GM with a good understanding of the Old World.

He's not evil enough! You should have got some nasty infections from that blow, and/be accused of murdering or kidnapping the girl (she was nowhere to be seen afterwards, right?)

He sounds far too nice, if you ask me

Darth Smeg said:

Hey Darth! Quit giving him ideas!!

Eradico Pravus said:

Ah, well then if everyone is on the same page about this method and everyone's cool with it, then hurray!

My players would start hating me if I suddenly started to manipulate and punish them out of the blue. If we wanted GM vs. Players, we'd play Descent or Doom instead.

This is only the first time I've recalled that he's done something like this(punish without a save). However:

1 - We trust our GM that he has a good reason to "railroad" something like this to get into his story.

2 - And it fits the world. Dave should have been smart enough not to go in!

Necrozius said:

edwardp said:

The halfling smuggler is now all of a sudden the voice of reason and restraint. Go figure!

Eradico Pravus said:

Yeah, and I told you guys it wasn't a good idea to follow along the shoreline! The halfling almost drowned!!!

Yea, last night was a little evil.

jh

And of all the cards in your massive wound deck I draw, of course, "Mortal Wound" and end up dieing. Classic!

I guess I am a very, very evil GM then

[secret handshake]

jh

*sigh* Looking forward to Thursday's TPK…

Is your character's last name DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooooooooooooooom?