1. Alternative ending "Dragon king" : may I still use my Dragonscales during the fight with him? And what kind of dragonscales shoud I use?
2."Domain of Dragons": May I use all the dragonscales during the battle with the Dragon King, or just the dragonskales with matching colour?
3."Dragon slayers". Should I still plase the dragonscales on the board in the start of the characters turn?
4.Minotaur. Does he gain +1 to his attack score during battle in inner region?
Thanks!
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Kreg said:
1. Alternative ending "Dragon king" : may I still use my Dragonscales during the fight with him? And what kind of dragonscales shoud I use?
The Dragon King is exactly like other boss endings (Ice Queen, Eagle King, Demon Lord) and is not considered to be a Draconic Lord like Varthrax, Cadorus and Grilipus. No Dragon Scales can be used.
Kreg said:
Just the Dragon Scales matching the Draconic Lord you're fighting, unless you have Objects/Followers that change this basic rule.
Kreg said:
No, Dragon Scales are not placed on the board with this Ending and should not be gained by Characters. The only Dragon Scales that are used are the ones on the Draconic Lord cards, otherwise a Character could win the game by harvesting scales and not by facing the three Draconic Lords on the Crown of Command. Basically Dragon Slayers is a standard game with a triple Dragon-boss ending.
Kreg said:
No, his ability is related to die roll for movement, in the Dragon Tower you don't roll the die so no bonus.
Houserule idea
I have always find the dragon king alternative ending a bit weird, and how it should be used with the dragon scales.
But you could make a houserule, that the draconic lords are still fighting.
And to add more difficulty to the game, every Cadorus, Grillipus and Vartrax card that you draw has a automatic king effect, so that certain cards has it''s maximum effect. This does not mean that a dragon king seizes the crown.
This is because of the ultimate dragon king alternate ending.
He is actually more deadly than his sons:)
This is just a house rule of course, if you really want to use the dragon king ending together with the draconic lords and cards.
The_Warlock . Thank's for explanation vary much! Now it's perfectly clear! But in that case it's strange for me, why the "Dragon slayers" is the ending which could not be used in the Hidden variant of the game, when players don't know, what boss await them ( there is a revealed icon on it).
Velhart . I must say, that at first time we used the Dragon King ending, we were playing almost according to your homerules, only without automatic king effect ! ))
Kreg said:
Velhart . I must say, that at first time we used the Dragon King ending, we were playing almost according to your homerules, only without automatic king effect ! ))
Oke that''s nice.
Well, i have never use this house rule idea in my own games, because i have always played with the normal dragon scale rules.
But the game could be a lot more dangerous this way.
I hope you have a lot of fun with the dragon expansion
The dragon scales adds a new mechanic to the game:)
Velhart. I alredy have a lot of fun with this game! This is my first big board game, and "Dragon Expansion" is the first expansion i had bought for it. Now I got another one - Sacred Pool. And I can't get enough of a Talisman! There is only one problem - almost all of my frends don't know English well enough so I must to translate them the text from the cards. And sometimes they don't belive me! )))
Kreg said:
The_Warlock . Thank's for explanation vary much! Now it's perfectly clear! But in that case it's strange for me, why the "Dragon slayers" is the ending which could not be used in the Hidden variant of the game, when players don't know, what boss await them ( there is a revealed icon on it).
This is a perfectly clear objection and made me realize that I gave you a completely wrong answer!
The Dragon Slayers ending is meant to be used with the standard Dragon Rules (place scales, crown the Dragon King, etc…), except that all 3 Draconic Lords must be defeated instead of only one. Moreover, the winner is not determined as the Character that kills the last Draconic Lord, but as the Character that gained the most Dragon Scales.
The only thing that made me think about this is the "revealed icon", as you pointed out. There won't be any reason to reveal the three Draconic Lords if it wasn't for the Dragon King mechanics. This also means that scales can be collected during play as in a standard Dragon game. This will only make the final combat harder and reward the Character that killed most Dragons (= collected most scales), instead of the Character that reached the Crown and defeated the Dragon King in a blitz.
Personally I don't think that a Character that reaches the Crown with stats good enough to kill every Draconic Lord will result as not being the winner. There's a potential 15 scales prize on the Crown of Command and this will probably mean victory for any Character. Still, it is a harder engame for Characters that aren't proficient in both Strength and Craft and it might lead to some interesting scenarios. I will give this ending a try next time!
The_Warlock said:
The Dragon Slayers ending is meant to be used with the standard Dragon Rules (place scales, crown the Dragon King, etc…), except that all 3 Draconic Lords must be defeated instead of only one.
I think that it is wrong.
"Alternative Ending Cards allow players to use the cards and tokens from this expansion in new ways. However, players cannot play with The Dragon expansion in its entirety and Alternative Ending Cards at the same time ."
Windyhead said:
The_Warlock said:
The Dragon Slayers ending is meant to be used with the standard Dragon Rules (place scales, crown the Dragon King, etc…), except that all 3 Draconic Lords must be defeated instead of only one.
I think that it is wrong.
"Alternative Ending Cards allow players to use the cards and tokens from this expansion in new ways. However, players cannot play with The Dragon expansion in its entirety and Alternative Ending Cards at the same time ."