Question that came up at our last game: do the command sections count for determining support availability? For example, can you get a walker just the command section and 1st section? Or does the first walker require 1st and 2nd?

Well since Command Sections ARE Sections, and nothing says otherwise, they count.

im with archer on this.

command section plus first manditory section results in 2 sections taken, thus 1 support is optional.

That's where I'm leaning too. Sounds good.

i've read up and down that part of the book looking for it. all i could find is that you need to take each section inorder but nothing saying that command sections dont count.

… have a friend (also store owner) who wants to field as many axis tanks and possible so we did our best to find this answer

Tequila Sousa said:

ya sorry my misreading of the wording. i missed the "not" part when it says "not compelled"… my bad

Yes, Command Sections do count [per FFG] and the only 2 sections you have to take are Command and 1st. You could then take a 3rd or 4th without a 2nd if you like.

And if you have a total of 5 sections do you round up so you can have an extra support or round down. I assume round down, but I want to make sure Im not just off in my own world. LOL

it doesnt say anything like that. probably why FFG's official army sheet PDF they have has 3 sections listed is some hero's say that if you have that hero as your command section you can field an extra support unit of radiomen or sniper team without needing to follow the support rules, and of course you need to pay for them

Peacekeeper_b said:

I would have thought the names would give it away… 1st section, 2nd section… on FFGs roster pdf they are listed as "section 1" etc… and "Command". Command is separate and not counted as a "section".

Azrell said:

In the book they are called command sections.

They are called Command Section, so they do count. You Round down if you have 5 sections, every full 2 sections.

Snowshadow said:

Command section may still not be a "section". the rules don't stat for every 2 sections command or otherwise, they say for every "section". Besides if the command was a "section" wouldn't it be the "1st" section? Section reads to be a name not a type . They literally numbered the sections for you. Look at the FFGs roster sheet, under support on this website, it lists "command", "section 1", "section 2",… Thats a great example of ho w they expect rosters to be set up. Further more there is no rule or explanation as to what would happen if you had 5 sections!! round up? down? its impossible to have more than 4, so no explanation was needed. Again if you were able to already take 1 support choice, than wouldn't there just be another "support section (optional)" listed? It is most likely just a poor choice of descriptive wording.

"what section are you from trooper?"

"1st section, sir."

"so command section?"

"no sir the first section.."

"Azrell said:

Look at the FFGs roster sheet, under support on this website, it lists "command", "section 1", "section 2",…"

I have the PDF Army Sheet open from the support page, it says "Command Section, Section 1, Section 2…." soooo yea I am going to be counting it as a Section.

Pg. 88 says "1 per 2 sections" 1 is not 2 so no support, 3 is not 4 so 1 support, 5 is not 6 so 2 support.

Exactly its not a "section" its the "command section". Support reads "A platoon may field one support choice for each two sections it includes (i.e., a platoon with four sections can choose up to two support units)." pg 86 DWCR. No mention in the rules of what to do with an odd number of sections? Section is the name of 4 of the choices not the type .

so if I have 1 section I get a support too?

So why is there a place place to write the" command section" and a space labeled "section 1". Again if your supposed to count the command as a section, why isnt it section 1?

because it commands things?

If you want to say it rounds up or what ever I am actually koo with that…. because it will come out the same.

your way:

1 comm, 1 sec <round up> 1 support

+1 sec = 1 support

+1 sec = 2 support

mine :

1 comm, 1 sec = 2 = 1 support

+1 sec = 1 support

+1 sec = 2 support

Snowshadow said:

Snowshadow said:

No. Im not able to following your logic in that comment. plz elaborate.

The rules state, a platoon has a command and 1-4 sections, you can have 1 support for every 2 sections. They even labeled them 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and 4th sections. Your command section is the mysterious 0st..0ed..0th… section 0?

Azrell said:

You said that it doesn't tell you how to deal with odd section numbers so command must not be a section because 5 sections is crazy talk. However with you saying Command is not a section then you can still have 1 or 3 sections.

"No mention in the rules of what to do with an odd number of sections?"

It still doesn't explain in detail how to deal with these.

Look you can keep arguing all you like, but every source I have found has called them a "Command Section " and until they FAQ it away I will be counting it and I believe most will not argue with me at the LGS. In any event this has taken way more of my time then it should have.

Snowshadow said:

Snowshadow said:

"Command Section" is not a "section" its a "Command Section". Its a name not a designation… just like my friend is not actually a "smith" his family name is "Smith". If there is an FAQ or rule stating otherwise plz feel free to reference it.

Snowshadow said:

Again, 1st section, 2nd section, 3rd section, 4th section. 4 sections. where is 1 or 3, comming from? Command and 1st section are mandatory. I still dont follow you logic on this. it seems clear to me.

How about FFG showing you?

http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/edge_news.asp?eidn=3175

"Allies Army example

Combat Platoon

Command Section: The Boss Ranger Command Squad, 25 AP
1st Section: The Gunners Combat Rangers Squad, 20 AP
Unit upgraded to carry two M9 Bazookas
2nd Section: Death Dealers Ranger Weapon Squad, 20 AP
3rd Section: Recon Boys Recon Ranger Squad, 16 AP

Support Unit:Crack Shots Ranger Sniper Team, 12 AP
Support Unit: Honey Light Assault Walker, 25 AP
Support Unit: Wildfire Light Assault Walker, 20 AP
Platoon Upgrade: Improved Command, 5 AP"

Command is counted. The 3rd support is from the Boss squads special rule.