Card Questions

By Hasharin, in 2. AGoT Rules Discussion

Hi I just bought my core set and played a few games, but I have a couple of questions about some cards.

Baratheon:

Dragonstone Port: What does it mean players may take actions after plot cards are chosen but not revealed► Can''''t you normally do that►

King Roberts Chambers: This goes for all of the chambers, what does it do to attach this to your house card►

Lightbringer: If I put this on Robert Baratheon, and then I kneeled him, would this card count as kneeled, making so I could not use it''''s response►

Lords of the Narrow Sea: Does this new plot card take place of the old one►

Melisandre: If she dies does the power on opponents characters still not count►

Milk of the Poppy: May I attach this on an opponents character► Or only mine►

Ser Davos Seaworth: Does this happen every single time he dies or just once►

Stinking Drunk: Same as Milk of the Poppy

Lannister:

Bronn: I don''''t understand this at all.

Grand Maester Pycelle: I don''''t understand this one either.

Tywin Lannister: What difference does it make whether he produces 2 gold or has his special rule►

Thats all for Lannister and Baratheon, I have yet to play with the other two. Also I have no idea what being limited does, could you clarify that for me► Thanks a ton guys!

Hasharin said:

Hi I just bought my core set and played a few games, but I have a couple of questions about some cards.

Baratheon:

Dragonstone Port: What does it mean players may take actions after plot cards are chosen but not revealed? Can''''''''t you normally do that?

King Roberts Chambers: This goes for all of the chambers, what does it do to attach this to your house card?

Lightbringer: If I put this on Robert Baratheon, and then I kneeled him, would this card count as kneeled, making so I could not use it''''''''s response?

Lords of the Narrow Sea: Does this new plot card take place of the old one?

Melisandre: If she dies does the power on opponents characters still not count?

Milk of the Poppy: May I attach this on an opponents character? Or only mine?

Ser Davos Seaworth: Does this happen every single time he dies or just once?

Stinking Drunk: Same as Milk of the Poppy

Lannister:

Bronn: I don''''''''t understand this at all.

Grand Maester Pycelle: I don''''''''t understand this one either.

Tywin Lannister: What difference does it make whether he produces 2 gold or has his special rule?

Thats all for Lannister and Baratheon, I have yet to play with the other two. Also I have no idea what being limited does, could you clarify that for me? Thanks a ton guys!

Welcome to the game! I''ll take a stab at some of these questions (although many of them could be answered by doing a search for key terms in either the rulebook or the FAQ.)

Dragonstone Port: Normally you can take actions before plots are selected and after plots are revealed, but not in between.

King Robert''s Chambers: If you attach it to your house card, it ceases to be a location and starts being an attachment. If you''re playing against a person who messes with your locations (Greyjoy, for example), play it as an attachment. If you are dealing with some attachment messings-with, play it as a location.

Lightbringer: Attachments and characters kneel and stand independently of one another.

Lords of the Narrow Sea: Yes, if a player reveals a new plot card, the old one will go to their used plots pile.

Melisandre: Her text will only be active while she is in play. If she dies, her text goes away.

Milk of the Poppy, Stinking Drunk: You can attach this to any character, regardless of who controls it. (It would say "attach to a character you control" if it were meant to be restricted in that way.)

Ser Davos Seaworth: You can use this any time Ser Davos would be killed.

Bronn: You essentially pay Bronn 2 gold to protect a character. If Bronn is kneeling and the character you''re protecting would be killed, instead of killing that character, you get to stand Bronn instead.

Pycelle: If your opponent plays an effect that reveals a card (Like the plot Summoning Season, for example), you get to reveal the top card of your deck and put it in your hand. (It''s really difficult to rephrase an ability that''s already pretty tightly worded - what part of the ability do you not understand►)

Tywin: You essentially get two extra gold per turn that doesn''t go away during the Taxation phase. (Taxation takes all the gold in your gold pool, but Tywin''s gold isn''t in your pool. You normally can''t spend gold that isn''t in your gold pool; Tywin''s special ability breaks that rule.)

Thanks sooooo much for all the help, I really got confused for some of the cards. The one with Maester Pycelle I just didn't understand what they meant by effect. By the way where are the FAQ's?

Thanks, but I have a few more questions, what does being limited do? (I know I'm real slow at picking things up aren't I?)

Hasharin said:

Thanks, but I have a few more questions, what does being limited do? (I know I'm real slow at picking things up aren't I?)

"Limited
You may play only one card (of any type) with
the “Limited” keyword per round."

So you can only play 1 card (total) with the keyword "Limited" per round. It really is that simple. Is there a specific question or situation that is confusing you?

I swear ktom - you and I must be on the same schedule. Our replies have an uncanny knack of coinciding with each other. :)

I thought that you could only play one type of limited card, so if you played a Great Keep, you would only ever be able to play one. Thanks for clearing it up, now I know you just can't play more then one a turn.

I think you may be confusing "limited' with "unique" -- you can only have one copy of a unique card in play at a time.

Ok, I just played a game with Stark and Targaryen and here are my questions,

Targaryen:

Titans Bastard: Does his special response apply even if you buy him with gold during the marshalling phase?

Qartheen Fanatic: Is it +1 strength for every dragon, or just only if there is a dragon?

Stark:

Hodor: In the rulebook it states that if an attacker has more characters with deadly he may kill a defender, so what does it do for a defender?

Eddard Stark: Does the power go to your house, or Eddard?

Greatjon Umber: Why would you do this?

Sorry for my ignorance…

Hasharin said:

Titans Bastard: Does his special response apply even if you buy him with gold during the marshalling phase?

Qartheen Fanatic: Is it +1 strength for every dragon, or just only if there is a dragon?

Either of the Reponses on The Titans' Bastard may be triggered if their criteria is met, regardless of how he ended up being in play. Remember, Responses don't HAVE to be triggered - you get to choose if you WANT to trigger the Response text.

Qartheen Fanatic only gets +1, not +1 for each.

Hasharin said:

Hodor: In the rulebook it states that if an attacker has more characters with deadly he may kill a defender, so what does it do for a defender?

Eddard Stark: Does the power go to your house, or Eddard?

Greatjon Umber: Why would you do this?

Sorry for my ignorance…

The Core rules states "During a challenge, if the attacking player controls the most participating characters with the “Deadly” keyword , the defending player must choose and kill a defending participating character after the challenge resolves.

So it is a comparison of the number of Deadly characters attacking vs the number of Deadly characters defending. If there are more defending, nothing happens.

Just as the card text states, Eddard gets the power token placed on his character card when he comes into play.

Greatjon: If you look at the Framework chart for the Challenges phase, you'll see that there is a Player Action framework in between the declaration of defenders and resolving the challenge. This is primarily where his ability can be used to add him into a challenge that he wasn't originally a part of. This may, for example, allow you to win a challenge that your opponent under-committed to, whether you are attacking or defending. Greatjon's ability is also useful against cards that restrict your ability to "declare" defenders. His ability happens outside of the "declare defenders" framework, so it is a way of getting around such a restriction. See the Focused Offense plot card as an example.

sabrefox said:

Either of the Reponses on The Titans' Bastard may be triggered if their criteria is met, regardless of how he ended up being in play. Remember, Responses don't HAVE to be triggered - you get to choose if you WANT to trigger the Response text.

sabrefox said:

Greatjon: If you look at the Framework chart for the Challenges phase, you'll see that there is a Player Action framework in between the declaration of defenders and resolving the challenge. This is primarily where his ability can be used to add him into a challenge that he wasn't originally a part of. This may, for example, allow you to win a challenge that your opponent under-committed to, whether you are attacking or defending. Greatjon's ability is also useful against cards that restrict your ability to "declare" defenders. His ability happens outside of the "declare defenders" framework, so it is a way of getting around such a restriction. See the Focused Offense plot card as an example.

sabrefox said:

So it is a comparison of the number of Deadly characters attacking vs the number of Deadly characters defending. If there are more defending, nothing happens.

Nothing happens if both players have the same number of Deadly characters in the challenge, either.

sabrefox said:

Greatjon: If you look at the Framework chart for the Challenges phase, you'll see that there is a Player Action framework in between the declaration of defenders and resolving the challenge. This is primarily where his ability can be used to add him into a challenge that he wasn't originally a part of. This may, for example, allow you to win a challenge that your opponent under-committed to, whether you are attacking or defending. Greatjon's ability is also useful against cards that restrict your ability to "declare" defenders. His ability happens outside of the "declare defenders" framework, so it is a way of getting around such a restriction. See the Focused Offense plot card as an example.

You can also use his ability in the action window between the declaring attackers and declaring Stealth. It also gets around restrictions about declaring defenders and has the added benefit of not letting your opponent use Stealth on the Greatjon (because Stealth prevents a character from defending and not just from being declared a defender, you cannot use his ability if Stealth has been used on him).