Hi!

Someone please explain why daemons are immune to the navigator powers. I mean the warp fire powers and so on.

Based on the rules Daemos are weak against psy attacks as thier daemonic trait has no effect. Navigators are psykers; thier power is some kind of psy power technicaly: It looks illogical.

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If you''re talking about the Lidless Stare, then the answer is pretty obvious: Daemons live in the warp, why would they take damage from looking at it►

Sorry i was not clear, i am talking about Scourge of the red tide.

In the power descriptions:

Note that the damage dealt out from this power can be
applied to physical inanimate objects as well and will also
damage non-living targets (but not Daemons, Untouchables,
or any other warp entities—see the sidebar Psychic Powers in
ROGUE TRADER and DARK HERESY, page 172 of the ROGUE
TRADER Core Rulebook for explanation).

So this power can blast a hole into the wall, but canot hurt daemons.

How can a wall see into your eyes is not clear, so i guess this power is not a visual power at rank 3 anymore.

From page 172 i found no explanations only this:

Daemons & Warp Entities: Creatures with the Daemonic or Stuff of Nightmares Trait always use their powers at
Unfettered level only, and whilst they may generate Psychic Phenomena from the powers they employ at the GM’s
discretion, they are never adversely affected by them or suffer Perils of the Warp.

Well, I repeat my initial response for the most part: They live in the warp, why would being touched by warp-stuff harm them► It''d be like making humans take damage from coming into contact with Air.

What is the difference between a psy created fireball and the strange eye power what is a fireblast that can harm non living thing.

The 2nd is weaker; do self damage, and dont let u use any other powers int that combat at max level. For me it means its is not a balance questions, more likly it is a concept. One is a rare mutation generated warp effect; but the other is the same.

Do you know any more source what i can read about the difference and why it is linked to the daemons. I would not mind to to tell a story about the dirty secret of the navigators - small sheeds of the 5th chaos god.

As far as i know there is no other rules about daemons warp powers immunity.

Or i should consider it is just because►

ps, I am wondering too how the wall try to avoid the gaze but oh well this power is strange.

The scourge of the red tide isn''t a D&D-style fireball. It''s literally a tide of warp energy. That will do horrific things to living beings of the materium but that same warp energy is like air to warp entities - such as daemons.

Agreed, this power isn't about vision it's about letting the raw wave of warp stuff wash over things, that is bad for anything in the materium except for things who are from the immaterium, or things that are unaffected by the warp (like untouchables)