Lets say i have these 3 foundations out.

I F Kanzukiryu to give all keywords +1 for the turn.

I then play and successfully check a multiple:2 attack, lets say Melancholy Mercurius.

due to Kanzukiryu it becomes multiple:3

I E; Meat Eater to give Melancholy powerful:1 which then becomes powerful:2 due to Kanzukiryu

I Multiple:3 Melancholy

I Homing Water Dragon Cane to give Melancholy multiple:1 which becomes multiple:2 because of Kanzukiryu

I Multiple:2 Melancholy

I E Homing Dragon Water Cane giving all multipe copies +dmg = to powerful rating (+2 dmg)

Is That correct interaction?

If i was to have multiple copies of Kanzukiryu in play and F them all it would stack yes?

Everything looks explained well, and works fine.

And yes, Kanzukiryu will start if you have multiple out and F with them all.

*dreams of multiple:3, powerful:5 jaguar thousands....*

when the original attack resolves all values go back to printed, thus no dmg bonus since MM wont have powerful anymore

Id like confirmation on this, doesnt seem right to me. while i can understand values clearing at end of turn, after the attack resolves doesnt make to much sense to me, should that be true it would create an illegal state where more than the multiple copies allowed to be created would have been created due to the interaction with Homing Water Dragon Cane and Kanzukiryu.

once the copies are created, like any other effect, they exist independently of the source.

I guess the question then would be will the powerful effect created by Meat Eater, and modified by Kanzukiryu last through the enhance step for each multiple copy? meaning would i be able homing water dragon cane E: +dmg = powerful rating of attack

Lasombraknight said:

no

so its possible to play multiple 2 and multiple 3 off of the same attack? I thuoght keywords such as stun, multiple, powerful, could only be played once per attack.

So you could say give Feline spike multple 1 with dragon cane, and multiple a total of 3 copies out? (over 2 enhances steps of course)

hmmm

That would require 4 enhances.

1) Use original multiple.

2) Give it powerful with the meat.

3) Give it multiple with the cane.

4) Use the new multiple.

Note that step 1 could go in anywhere...

aslum said:

yeah i meant assuming an attack somehow has multiple 1 and multiple 2, i just meant i didnt know you could play both multiples independently as 2 different enhances. I guess what i am trying to say is i thought multiple could only instance once on a card...

Each copy of a keyword on a card is its own separate enhance.

Each particular "Enhance" can only be used once, but if you have a card with Stun: 1, Stun: 1, Stun: 2, Multiple: 3, Powerful: 2, you're obviously cheating... j/k really though, if such a card did exist it would take 5 enhances to use all of the abilities, and they would each succeed or be canceled independently.

aslum said:

*STAMP*

yeah this just falls into the "stuff i never really thought about and had no idea how it worked" category, as opposed to the "i thought it worked this way" category, lol.

I want them to print an attack with stun:1, stun:2, stun:3, stun:4 LOL. Doooo EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET

Personally id like to see more symbol specific material on cards. the recent run of stuff has been pretty interesting.

Example like:

Attack 6/2 3M6 +2L

Chaos-Evil-Water

Water Character: Reversal, Evil Character: Stun : 2, Chaos Character: Powerful:2, Ranged

If this attack deals its printed damage or more add it to your momentum.

i think that would be neat to see

aslum said:

Since this was stamped, I assuming this answers indirectly another question I've always had since Fighting Frenzy from Extreme Rivals.

Four copies of Homing Water Dragon Cane can give a "Powerful: 2" attack four multiple keywords until the damage phase. Basically the card before the damage phase has:

"Powerful: 2, Multiple: 1, Multiple: 1, Multiple: 1, Multiple: 1"

which means it can have four multiple copies, or one multiple copy if your opponent uses 3 No Memories.

If this is true, does that mean 4 Fighting Frenzy with four momentum can make an attack have the following?

"Stun: 1, Stun: 1, Stun: 1, Stun: 1"

Sorry for long post or thread jacking; I'm new and I'm not sure if this counts as either.

Absolutely. Though that does make me curious what happens if you use Fighting Frenzy on Ice Coffin...

It's always exciting with Killing Bite or Gama Jigokun.... Thank Pete it KB doesn't share resources with it.

Ziephnir said:

This is not entirely accurate. Enhance based bonuses will disappear if they don't specify a longer duration then the attack.

Kanzu's form effect will still be in effect after the attack... so if the attack that was multiplied had Multiple: 1 printed on it, you could give each multiple +2 damage...

Of course, if powerful on the attack is only from Meat Eater it will disappear as soon as the attack resolves, as stated.