Newbie questions

By Clive_Bixby2, in 2. AGoT Rules Discussion

Hiya everybody...

Couldn't find the answers anywhere so I have to bother you ;) Just played with a friend of mine and I'm really unsure if we're playing it right...

1. Frozen Outpost says: Kneel FO to choose and stand a defending character. Until the end of the challenge, that character gets +2STR.

My char is defending, so it's already kneeling. Now I can stand it again, it gains strength and I kneel it again to defend???

2. Taste for Blood says: Response: After you lose a challenge as the defender, attached character claims 1 power.

Now if I have all three attachments in play and I lose a challenge as a defender, do all three characters claim 1 power even if they weren't participating in the challenge? I don't think so, but the card doesn't say "attached participating char" or something like that.

3. A general question: Do attachments kneel when the character it is attached to have to kneel?

Thanks so much in advance!

Clive_Bixby said:

1. Frozen Outpost says: Kneel FO to choose and stand a defending character. Until the end of the challenge, that character gets +2STR.

My char is defending, so it's already kneeling. Now I can stand it again, it gains strength and I kneel it again to defend???

You don't need to re-kneel the character -- he's still defending in the challenge. You only kneel characters to DECLARE them as defenders. Once declared, they are in, and standing doesn't automatically remove them. He is standing, defending the challenge, and +2 STR. You may then kneel that character to declare them as defender (or attacker) in another challenge.

Clive_Bixby said:

2. Taste for Blood says: Response: After you lose a challenge as the defender, attached character claims 1 power.

Now if I have all three attachments in play and I lose a challenge as a defender, do all three characters claim 1 power even if they weren't participating in the challenge? I don't think so, but the card doesn't say "attached participating char" or something like that.

Yes. each character may claim one power. Each card has a Triggered Effect, and they may each be triggered. You are right to read the cards as literally as possible. If it doesn't specify "participating character", it doesn't mean "participating character".

Clive_Bixby said:

3. A general question: Do attachments kneel when the character it is attached to have to kneel?

No -- and neither does a Character kneel when his Attachments do.

Thanks a lot for your answer :) ))

You wrote:

Yes. each character may claim one power. Each card has a Triggered Effect, and they may each be triggered. You are right to read the cards as literally as possible. If it doesn't specify "participating character", it doesn't mean "participating character".

But wouldn't this also mean that I can get 9 power by losing all the challenges??? I mean that's almost winning the game! I mean that's.... wow???

Clive_Bixby said:

But wouldn't this also mean that I can get 9 power by losing all the challenges??? I mean that's almost winning the game! I mean that's.... wow???

I did it just a few hours ago. ^^

But we thought that this is too good to be true...

Same goes for killing a character to resolve a lost military challenge and then saving it somehow. Pulling this "trick" over and over again it struck the Stark player as massively "unfair" because she saw no point in military challenges anymore! We then started thinking "too good to be true" again! However, I read in here that this is perfectly fine... :)

It has to be said that we are new to the game and a more seasoned player would have probably just killed my chars or discarded my attachments or something like that ;) But I guess that playing with the CS only, doesn't give you a lot of cards which remove attachments and stuff...

You should introduce that player to Brienne of Tarth from Princes of the Sun and direct kill effects.