Which happens first: bringing a card out of shadows or effects timed at the beginning of the phase (like Theon AToC)?.

I asked a similar question here

http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/edge_foros_discusion.asp?efid=18&efcid=4&efidt=601291

Ktom breaks it down really well (for our group anyway) after my question.

Thanks. To think I have posted there and didn't remember...