Cardboard of the Rings, the LOTR LCG Podcast

By TheLightdarker, in The Lord of the Rings: The Card Game

Thanks for your videos - I enjoyed watching them. Keep it up!

Avalanche said:

FallenTurtles said:

Thank you for the kind words, everyone. I'll be sure that everybody at COTR drops in here to see what great fans we have!

For the record, this is Brian posting, and Brandon and I are usually the rulebreakers :) Mitch, aka, thelightdarker, is our rules guru and keeps us all on task. So none of the negativity should have ever been directing at the Mitch King. It's all me and Brandon. In fact, to celebrate this series of posts, I think I'm going to recommend that he and I record a gamer together and break every rule possible. I plan on using Pokemon cards.

You're all great!

As I have said previously this is why I listen to this show. Watch out Sauron here comes Pikachu!

Pikachu?!? Is he in LOTR?? I think you are mixing LOTR and The Hobbit here…

A wild NAZGUL has appeared! ARAGORN used A BURNING BRAND! It's super effective!

another video, by chance? i hope so, i love them! :)

In celebration of FFG finally revealing A Creature of Shadow and Flame, check out Mitch from COTR taking his Glorfindel deck on a

Wooooohooooooooooo………

Mitch: How did you get the new cards form Foundations of Stone into octgn???

Thanks.

Also, Players tally each round for their score at the end of the refresh phase.
I should get a Youtube account just to comment….

muemakan said:

Also, Players tally each round for their score at the end of the refresh phase.
I should get a Youtube account just to comment….



Yep, I made a couple innocent mistakes out of tiredom (tallying each round at the beginning, not the end, of the refresh phase, and once I forest snared the chieftain I completely spaced placing shadow cards). Hooray for being able to add annotations to videos!

muemakan said:

Mitch: How did you get the new cards form Foundations of Stone into octgn???

Thanks.

^^^^^^^^ ??

He used new cards and I wanted to know if he created them himself or got them from somebody…..

I failed in trying to create them with the editor.

muemakan said:

He used new cards and I wanted to know if he created them himself or got them from somebody…..

I failed in trying to create them with the editor.

HA ! I know what you were asking I was doubling the request ;)

Looks like the complete Foundations of Stone set is now available to everyone angel.gif

BREAKING NEWS: Andrew Stabbed With Morgul Blade !

(Episode 29 is live!)

just to fix it

Hmmm i see you delete comments from Youtube which dont hail and glory you. Ha ha ha
Ok this is up to you and your conscience. But this tell me a lot about you guys. Fear is not a man +skill.

You cannot accept some critics??? Anaway here thanks Iluvator you cannot do it! I love critic this always make you better! And when you deserve a hail from people who critic you before this is a real price for the man. You decice just to run and delete my comments. Really , really dissapointed……


yeah it is pretty funny… especially when 50% of all the stuff they do is playing incorrectly. These guys just cheat.. not that i think they are malicious about it… they just do not understand the rules. This isn't us being rude, or mean.. it is just a fact watch there games yourself and you will see. You correct them on the youtube account and they delete it cause they do not like being told how badly they play.

You guys totally nailed it. We're so afraid of criticism and someone letting us know that we made a mistake that we delete the comments. We are scared!

Sarcasm aside, we welcome the criticism. I really do mean that. None of us claim to be perfect at this game, and none of us has claimed that we are the end-all experts on its rules and playability.

What I do despise is your antagonistic approach to the situation. The two of you have a notorious ability to make people feel pretty sh*tty with your comments. Rather than using your -- and it pains me to admit this -- pretty impressive knowledge of how this game functions to help people develop their strategies in a friendly way, you attack and insult. Your stupid little disclaimer comments in your signature doesn't mean you aren't being a ****, you're just making an excuse for yourself.

I personally don't know what Glaurung's comment was on YouTube, and it wasn't me who deleted it. I can't speak to it, but based on every interaction I've had on here, I have no doubt that it was a nasty comment designed only to hurt, not designed to provide constructive feedback for us. And frankly that's good enough for a reason to delete it. I welcome both of you to continue listening to the show and watching our videos if you want, but don't expect us to accept your feedback in the same manner that we accept it from others. We don't owe you anything, and coming at us with the attitude that both of you use just causes us to act out of anger. So congratulations, I guess you got what you wanted. You've managed to piss us off! I guess you win!

To the rest of the community, and those of you who take a look at the videos, please don't let anything I've said here discourage you from letting us know when we make a mistake. Yes, sometimes we miss text on a card, but I assure you it is a mistake likely prompted by our desire to produce a quick, clean playthrough and video for you, and not an intentional decision to try and cheat. Mistakes will continue to be made -- several times we've reversed decisions we made on cards because we read them incorrectly, I myself do this all the time!

Please continue to let us know if we goof up. We want to play these scenarios correctly. And as a final message, I don't want anyone to think that we have tried to elevate ourselves to some sort of godlike status. We just make a podcast and some videos. I firmly believe there are people on this site and others who have more knowledge about this game than the five of us. It's entertainment; we're not absolute experts and we're not the final word on anything that happens with this game. All right, that's enough feeding the trolls.

Happy gaming! Episode 30 coming soon!

Addendum: if it's me breaking the rules, it isn't a mistake. It's in direct defiance of the rules. USA! USA! USA!

FallenTurtles said:

Addendum: if it's me breaking the rules, it isn't a mistake. It's in direct defiance of the rules. USA! USA! USA!

This means you are Brian ;)

At your service, sir :)

glaurung and booored remind me of those muppets Statler and Walforf -- those two old men up in the balcony, who just sit there whining and heckling everything that goes on in the forums

FallenTurtles said:

At your service, sir :)

Instead of breaking rules, how about luring your co-hosts into rule errors during your games? ;)

Cunir said:

glaurung and booored remind me of those muppets Statler and Walforf -- those two old men up in the balcony, who just sit there whining and heckling everything that goes on in the forums

Actually those 2 guys is my favorite in the show. Really love them!

Dont worry dudes good critics is never kill and everything what is not kill us make us stronger. I watch Mitch last game. he play now more clever. So we get some results! Cheers

First of all, I agree with everything that Brian (FallenTurtles), wrote in his post.

Second of all, Glaurung - I was the one that deleted your comment from YouTube, because as soon as I read it, I had a very difficult time resisting the urge to just come out with it and once and for all to tell you to go f*** yourself. I'm glad I didn't, but as soon as I had deleted your comments out of irritation, I wished I hadn't - once my initial reaction subsided, I would have much rather written something like I have now, so in that way, thank you for coming to this thread and giving me a second chance to express myself in response to still more snarky, antagonistic comments.

You say that criticism makes people better players, and most of the time, I would agree with you; the problem, however, is that you are not a constructive critic. Leaving a comment that says "can you even read???" is not constructive, nor does it make anyone a better player. It's nothing more than a thinly veiled personal attack directed toward me or the countless other individuals and forum posters that you have directed your "criticism" toward. Your other comment, mentioning that I did in fact overlook the "response" ability on quest card 2B (I mis-read it as Forced), was actually constructive - I had made an assumption, and stand corrected. However, when you and Booored suggest that the people responsible for producing this podcast and the videos don't "understand how to play the game," purely because of simple mistakes like this, that just comes off as malicious and ignorant, and generates ire toward the both of you.

Have you ever stopped to think that maybe it would make for a boring video or podcast if there were frequent or long pauses to process every possible piece of information, or to read every single card verbatim? Have you ever stopped to think that some of us don't want to dedicate the amount of time and effort necessary to ensure that everything is perfect? I have not committed every single card in the game to memory, and there are plenty of scenarios I haven't played for months - deal with it. Neither the podcast or the videos are scripted or rehearsed (nor will they be), and therefore, mistakes happen. I would love for either of you to release a recording of one of your own gameplay sessions, or to put out your own podcast, just so you might begin to understand that they are different than posting on a forum - you cannot easily edit your content. If we mispeak on the podcast, or don't take the time to look up a rule, it's in the interest of keeping the running time within reason (the podcast already tends to run two hours long), and it's more important to us that we create interesting and engaging material (your mileage may vary), than to get everything perfect; plus, not every co-host has as much time to dedicate every other week.

If we get a rule wrong, it isn't because I, or any other co-host has some sort of mental deficiency, and it isn't because I, or any other co-host, doesn't "understand how to play the game." Mistakes happen. Criticism is helpful, and welcome, but the garbage that you and Booored consistently, incessantly post in this forum is rarely constructive, especially so far as anything related to COTR is concerned. As much as I appreciate every single person that listens to our podcast and/or watches our videos, I would welcome the opportunity to never have to read so much as a single additional post from either of you two.

By the way: all of this was written in haste, so you'll have to excuse me if I made any mistakes.

- Mitch

TheLightdarker said:

[…] If we mispeak on the podcast, or don't take the time to look up a rule, it's in the interest of keeping the running time within reason (the podcast already tends to run two hours long), and it's more important to us that we create interesting and engaging material (your mileage may vary), than to get everything perfect; plus, not every co-host has as much time to dedicate every other week.[…]

- Mitch

What was that…. ".. then he gets off and your hosed" ? :D:D I had a really good laugh there.

I really enjoy your podcast and the insight you give for all those cards. To err is human, to forgive is divine. So forgive them for their harsh criticism and please continue your podcast and the videos (I have to watch them, at least one of them).