My opponent has the only Lord on the table and I have the only Lady. We both play The Red Wedding. Since I have less power, I win Initiative.

THE RED WEDDING: "Power Struggle When revealed,the opponent to your left chooses 1 Lord and 1 Lady character,if able. Then,you must choose and kill 1 of those characters. The other claims 2 power. "

So...what happens? I believe both characters will claim the 2 power and both will die?

I choose to let my Plot happen first. He selects my Lady and his Lord (duh!)

I choose to kill his Lord and for my Lady to claim to power. His Lord is now Moribund.

Now his Plot happens. I choose my Lady and his Lord (again, duh!). I believe that I can select his Lord (even though Moribund). The card just says choose one Lord and one Lady. My opponent has to kill my Lady (since he can't kill his Moribund Lord) and his Moribund Lord claims 2 power.

Now that both Plot resolve, these characters both die.

Is this correct?

That is how it will work out. Assuming this came up in a game,

I'm guessing the competing interpretation was that the second Red Wedding fizzled out completely because the opponent could not choose a Lord and a Lady to begin with because the only Lord/Lady was moribund from the first plot? As you identified, the part that might not be particularly intuitive for people is the opponent's choice of the Lord and Lady being able to choose moribund characters because that choice is purely for identification purposes. It is not specifically to remove anything from play, so does not violate the moribund rules. The moribund rules against choosing a moribund character to leave play a second time won't kick in until the controller of the plot needs to choose which of the two identified characters dies - forcing them to choose the non-moribund character to die.

Thanks Kevin! Yup! That's how it came up in a game. I told my opponent that both characters would die (even though it was to his benefit since I won Initiative).

Apologies that this is probably a stupid question but can a character chosen to be killed by the Red wedding plot be saved (e.g. by Nymeria or a bodyguard)? The plot doesn't specifically state "can not be saved" which I've seen in otehr situations.

Such a character can indeed be saved, unless explicitly forbidden (Assault on King's Landing, for instance).

The only way a card can not be legally saved from an effect that removes it from play is if that effect does not explicitly discard or kill it (or any of the other options).

"Kill target character" can be saved from.

"Kill target character (cannot be saved)" can not.

"Place character into dead pile" can not.

Even if you change the targets of the removal effect, the logic should always apply.

mdc273 said:

I don't understand what you mean. You can discard an attached duplicate to save a unique character from any effect that removes it from play(when there is no "cannot be saved" or if it's not during the "end of phase" framework).

If I misread or misunderstood your post, then I apologize, but saving a character is not limited to only kill and discard effects.

However, there are a number of saves that *are* limited to kill or discard effects (eg Bodyguard, Iron Mines, Wendamyr, Aemon)… it just so happens that duplicates encompass more ways of "leaving play".

Thanks for the replies guys, I swear you have to be part lawyer/mathematician or logician to decipher the correct interpretation of the rules sometimes!