I was browsing the store trying to buy the Print on Demand product, and I saw this link for Warhammer but haven't heard any thing announced yet.

http://store.fantasyflightgames.com/productdetails.cfm?SKU=oWHF21

Anyone heard about this?

Qingtian said:

nope nothing... that's strange.

Here's the announcement:

http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/edge_news.asp?eidn=3128

It looks like a set of NPCs and locations for GMs. There seem to be some other cards in the image, which aren't identified in the release.

Looks cool. Don't know if I'll ever run a nautical adventure, but I'll buy it anyway. I pretty much have to have this.

Hmm. Interesting. I just saw the facebook post. Evidently a cross marketing tag team on the DreadFleet release eh?

jh

was the dread pirate roberts a dread fleet captain ?

Great news. I am sure that some of the monster/NPCs, Actions and Location Cards can also be used for adventures in Marienburg (perhaps there are some eel-like creatures in it, for example). I hope they go on releasing all kinds of cool stuff via PoD.

Not sure how I feel about this, this is the first time to have really big name NPC's in WFRP. Stands to reason that any one of these characters could take on a party. But, I LOVE the precedent it sets because it stretches the source material really far in a specific direction + good material for nautical adventure! I'm gonna get it.

BTW, Excellent inspiration for a nautical adventure in marienburg:
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This is bloody fantastic!

I love the Dreadfleet boardgame, so I'm rather giddy to see this type of expansion!

Might buy this, I tend to be fairly completist in buying stuff for games I like. Never thought they'd do it though, my FLGS ordered as many Dreadfleet as they were allowed, as it was a one time offer from GW, I think they've managed to sell 1-2 (of 30). From what I hear, this is not simply a local phenomenon.

nifoc said:

I'll buy the POD, it might still include cool stuff even if the game it's based on didn't sell so well.

GW in my city got a bunch and promoted Dread Fleet to me once when I was in the store. Among other things they said when I talked to them was that there was a very limited number produced and that if I wanted one it was best to buy as soon as possible. Now it's a couple of months later (I saw it in December or maybe November I think) and they still have a bunch of games in the store.

I have to be honest, as much as this get's me dreaming about "what could be", I recall that there are zero scenarios wfrp scenarios out there for seafaring voyages (please prove me wrong). Wolfship is there..but it's parked in the harbor in Marienburg... Without scenariso, that leaves us with a 88% reduction in utility imho.

jh

Why does not having official, published scenarios reduce the utility? Can't we either A) make up our own seafaring scenarios, or B) take any of the 1 million existing seafaring scenarios/campaigns for other systems (Freeport for example?) and do a quick convert?

I simply don't have time to create and/or convert stuff anymore (some people out there have all the time in the world). Industry standard is that if you put out a product, you also have a scenario for it. I would like to see a scenario released for this. If it came down to another stack of cards that I won't use or a scenario to support a deck of cards that I can use, I'll choose the latter.

Anyone care to helpround up some scenario ideas, write a scenario, or suggest some free download adaptations from other games (as Hedge Wizard recommends?)

jh

I have to agree with Emirikol:

If you feel a quick convert of these cards for a different system is easily done, or that you could easily build your own adventure around these cards... Then why do you need the cards to begin with? Just make them all yourself. (Yepesnopes did an awesome job with his High Elf project for example).

Then again, this IS a PoD, meaning they are very much free to do these little things, it doesn't cost them anything production-wise, only in manhours to design them.

What are those cards in the upper left hand corner of the picture?

38 cards for $15.00 according to my shipping calculation..and many of the ability cards are probably for monsters..e.g. chaos dwarf card shown (so how many for players actually? 2-3?)

jh

Emirikol,

They appear to be foldable "stand-ups" for the 10 characters. Not sure if they would be perforated or not, but that is what they appear to be.

Nisses said:

I think you misunderstood. I believe the recommendation was to use another system or setting for a pre-made nautical adventure, and convert THAT to Warhammer FRP 3rd Edition.

For example. I purchased the Pirates Guide to Freeport a while back, which is system neutral (meaning it has no stats, just oodles of fluff, setting info, NPCs, etc). It's got loads of stuff that could very very easily be dropped into a Warhammer campaign with very minor tweaks.

Emirikol said:

This doesn't sound like the industry I know. Outside of Paizo and WOTC I can't think of many companies that put out lots of adventures (in fact I can only think of one: Triple Ace Games). By lots I mean enough that you concievably run the game regularly using only published scenarios. Most newly published games seem to get a handful of scenarios published over the entire lifetime of the product if they are lucky. If you are playing a game like Cthulhu or Traveller then you will have dozens of legacy scenarios to steal bits from (and WFRP does pretty well on the front from 1st and 2nd editions) but otherwise most non-D20 GMs are going to be making it up. And it really does not take much time. A quick plot, a dozen names, a few twists, an NPC or two with a goal and motivation and the players will do the rest. Less than 1 hour will get you something very workable (and because it will be keyed to your charactersit will be a lot less generic than the published ones that have to appeal to everybody).

Hopefully some of these action cards will see use by the empires boatmen. And support outside of the Empire is a nice sign. Roll on the obscure pods I say

Good deduction about foldable standups!

If you find shipping expensive, wait till there are a few pods you want and order them together to spread out the cost, or encourage your local retailer to order the pods to sell.

With other FFG POD (Mansions of Madness, Death Angel etc) products Esdevium Games (the UK distributor for FFG) has alway brought a bunch over at launch so you don't have to order them straight from FFG. IGUK and Games Lore have stocked them in the past which reduces shipping costs. However no sign of Faith of Sigma making it here yet so I am guessing Dread Fleet Captain will be similarly slow.

GoblynKing said:

D'Oh

I did

Captain Fluffy said:

I was wondering how many scenarios companies were putting out so I challenged some people on RPG.net to find out for me. I was pleasantly surprised at how many companies actually DO put out lots of scenarios. Obviously D&D and Pathfinder..but also...

* Savage Worlds (hundreds..but they are mostly those one-sheeters, not full-fledged, playtested scenarios)

* Witch Hunter: 32 free, full-fledged, downloadable scenarios (actually going to be the basis for my short campaign before The Enemy Within)

* Arcanis: 35+ free, full-fledged, downloadable scenarios (both these and witch hunter are playtested and convention-ready)

* The One Ring: They just came out with a binder full of scenarios for their new product

* Outbreak Undead: 4 free scenarios and one full fledged

* This list here is 3-4 years out of date, but gives you an idea too: wiki.rpg.net/index.php/Free_Adventures

* Dragon Age - downloadable scenarios ($13.50) and Free RPG day events.

Thankfully so many of these are convertable to WFRP easily.

WFRP used to have a lot of scenario offerings by fans and published..now...not so much. FFG has chosen a different approach

jh

I guess one of the good things about WFRP is that it is extremely easy to convert stuff to. Most creatures or NPCs can be converted on the fly (as opposed to a D20 stat block which can be pretty intimidating to a new GM). Pick a template, tweak stats, modify ACE budget and flick through a deck of actions cards to chose something suitable.

A lot of the companies that you mention puting out adventures are doing it online with no real production values. I guess FFG would not see that as playing to their strengths. They do a pretty good job of supporting the warhammer 40k lines with adventures though.