I'm trying to tidy up a Lannister deck I've built, for a joust tournament that's coming up. At the moment, the deck is a bit too big, and the plot deck is enormous- I can't decide whether the deck works without Cersei, or I need summoning season (guarantees her, but also gives opponent their chief nasty) It's not very focussed, I think that's not too big a problem with the characters, but wonder a bit about the locations and events.

Any suggestions on what to remove/how to tighten this up?

Agenda
The Power Behind the Throne

Plots (10)
Shadows and Spiders Lions of the Rock 1
Loyalty Money Can Buy Queen of the Dragons 1
Frey Hospitality Lions of the Rock 1
All the Gold in Casterly Rock Lions of the Rock 1
Summoning Season Core Set 1
The Breaking of Oaths Kings of the Sea 1
Breaking and Entering Lions of the Rock 1
Hear Me Roar Core Set 1
Game of Thrones Lions of the Rock 1
Valar Morghulis Core Set 1

Characters (32)
Ser Ilyn Payne 1
House Payne Enforcer 3
Ser Jaime Lannister (Lions of the Rock) 2
Cersei Lannister (Lions of the Rock) 3
Enemy Informer 1
Corrupt Contender 1
Brothel Guard 1
Arrogant Contender 1
Bronn (Lions of the Rock) 2
Mountain Refugee 2
Cersei's Attendant 1
Ser Kevan Lannister 1
Ser Balon Swann 1
Lannisport Steward 1
Myrcella Lannister (Lions of the Rock) 2
Joffrey Baratheon (Kings of the Sea) 1
Ser Gregor Clegane (Where Loyalty Lies) 1
Bronn's Hireling 3
The Hound (Where Loyalty Lies) 1
Ser Gregor's Band 1
Tywin Lannister (Core) 1
Lady Genna 1

Events (10)
Terminal Schemes 1
Fights No Sword Can Win 1
I'm You Writ Small 1
Bought and Paid For 2
A Lannister Pays His Debts 1
Wars Are Won with Quills 1
The Wealth of the Rock 2
Double Bluff 1

Locations (16)
Sunset Sea 1
Hall of Heroes 1
Queen Cersei's Chambers 1
Shadowblack Lane 1
Darkened Hallways 1
The Goldroad 3
Lannisport 1
Lannisport Treasury 1
Lannisport Brothel 1
Golden Tooth Mines 2
Casterly Rock 1
Western Fiefdoms 2

Attachments (8)
Devious Intentions 2
Bodyguard 1
Slander and Lies 2
Bastard 1
Vat of Wildfire 2

Sure! I can try to help.

Agenda
The Power Behind the Throne

Plots (10)
Shadows and Spiders Lions of the Rock 1 (Money. Without misinformation it's very good. With, it's probably the best plot in your deck)
Loyalty Money Can Buy Queen of the Dragons 1 (Great plot. But I don't think it's absolutely necessary. This is an aggressive agenda, and this is a pretty passive plot. Muster the Realm gives you +1 Gold and should block most early military challenges)
Frey Hospitality Lions of the Rock 1 (Staple for sure.)
All the Gold in Casterly Rock Lions of the Rock 1 (Good, but I don't think it's necessary. Just the one hear me roar (or some other 5G plot) should be enough.)
Summoning Season Core Set 1 (Not worth it. Cersei is nice, but this is way too risky.)
The Breaking of Oaths Kings of the Sea 1 (Overkill I feel. Especially if you're forced to flip this while you're behind. You'll just give them 2 cards)
Breaking and Entering Lions of the Rock 1 (Not as good in practice as I thought it would be, not a bad choice for 2 claim, but there are better)
Hear Me Roar Core Set 1 (Good. This slot is probably a toss up for this or Muster the Realm for me)
Game of Thrones Lions of the Rock 1 (Great. Good initiative, and nice with renown out)
Valar Morghulis Core Set 1 (Staple)
Other ideas:
-Rule by Decree: This is an excellent opener if you have good plot or any phase effects (Battle of the bay/You've Killed the wrong dwarf/Golden tooth vaults, etc..) This will give you a decent chance of dropping their hand by 3 cards first turn. If they open with Search and Detain, this will also force them to take back their own character.

-Search and Detain: Screws up knight decks, power rush, all sorts of stuff. By making them go first, you also give your enemy informer more targets to kneel.

-Called to Court: Tricky plot, but lots of utility. Best case scenario: They have no cards, you flip this, return your Enemy Informer or some other come into play effect to your hand, play Arys Oakheart (or any other good 2-3 cost guy) from your hand.

Characters (32)
Ser Ilyn Payne 1 (Good, but risky)
House Payne Enforcer 3 (Super solid for this build)
Ser Jaime Lannister (Lions of the Rock) 2 (Just run 1; Yeah he's great. I like the core set version more for this agenda, but this is also a great Jaime)
Cersei Lannister (Lions of the Rock) 3 (Solid; It's definitely worth the risk to run 3)
Enemy Informer 1 (I love this guy. If you're going second, you can really wreck with this, especially with the 2 intrigue challenges available to you)
Corrupt Contender 1 (I see the utility, but I think there are better choices)
Brothel Guard 1 (Amazing. Why not 3?)
Arrogant Contender 1 (Never played with this guy, but he seems to work out well for most people)
Bronn (Lions of the Rock) 2 (Love him, but 1 is really all you need)
Mountain Refugee 2 (Great claim soak; worth keeping)
Cersei's Attendant 1 (Way better options in the 1 cost slot, Doubting Septa (better with confession!) and Bronn's Hireling. Maybe even 1 cost Hound for this build)
Ser Kevan Lannister 1 (Staple)
Ser Balon Swann 1 (Yeah, great choice)
Lannisport Steward 1 (Staple for this build)
Myrcella Lannister (Lions of the Rock) 2 (Great)
Joffrey Baratheon (Kings of the Sea) 1 (Interesting, but I would cut it)
Ser Gregor Clegane (Where Loyalty Lies) 1 (Solid)
Bronn's Hireling 3 (Solid)
The Hound (Where Loyalty Lies) 1 (I don't think you're getting your moneys worth here)
Ser Gregor's Band 1 (Better choices in the 4 cost slot)
Tywin Lannister (Core) 1 (Interesting, I could see it working)
Lady Genna 1 (I don't like her for this build, because you don't want them actually winning the challenges, as tempting as killing people with deadly is)
Other ideas:
-Craster: He's just dumb, and pretty much one free intrigue win a turn.

- Pyromancer's Apprentice: A good go-to location removal card if you don't have the event space for condemned by the council, which is probably the best for this build.

Tommen: If you can get him, he is a good card draw staple.

Events (10)
Terminal Schemes 1 ( I'd run 3; since they can all trigger off the same challenge)
Fights No Sword Can Win 1 (Yeah! This is clever, I would keep this)
I'm You Writ Small 1 (Not a bad choice for sure)
Bought and Paid For 2 (This is really bad, if you aren't willing to run any maesters, I would just run bastard)
A Lannister Pays His Debts 1 (Interesting, I could see it working)
Wars Are Won with Quills 1 (Annoying probably, but I bet there are better choices)
The Wealth of the Rock 2 ( Oh, this is fun)
Double Bluff 1 (This is good! 1 or 2 is probably useful)
Other ideas:
You've killed the wrong dwarf: So much utility it's nuts. Kneel the problem character, trigger rule by decree, win the game etc.

Misinformation: Really good, especially so with Shadows and Spiders.

Westeros Bleeds x2/Favorable Groundx2: These require a dedicated influence subtheme to get consistant use out of, but are easy ways to establish board control when they are drawing off the deck.

Locations (16)
Sunset Sea 1 (I would run 3 or none)
Hall of Heroes 1 (If you're going to run this, I would just run the treasury)
Queen Cersei's Chambers 1 (Staple)
Shadowblack Lane 1 (Solid)
Darkened Hallways 1 (If you have solid answers to cards in general, you don't need this)
The Goldroad 3 (Staple)
Lannisport 1 (Lots of work really... in practice this never really works out as well as I'd like)
Lannisport Treasury 1 (Dangerous, but I'd run it over hall of heroes)
Lannisport Brothel 1 (Yeah! Solid)
Golden Tooth Mines 2 (If you're not running pyromancer's cache, run 3 of these)
Casterly Rock 1 (Solid)
Western Fiefdoms 2 (Since you aren't really running influence effects, I would run more efficient reducers than this)

The iron throne: Staple. You can cancel Viper's Bannerman with this. Not to mention other random card draw effects.

Lannisport Tourney Grounds: Good and potentially scary. I would run 1x this 1x slander and lies before 2x slander and lies)

Attachments (8)
Devious Intentions 2 (Interesting, but I think it's redundant)
Bodyguard 1 (Not bad. Don't forget that this doesn't protect against search and detain though)
Slander and Lies 2 (Love this card, but really I would just run 1, in the off chance you run into a deck that this card will cripple)
Bastard 1 (Yeah!)
Vat of Wildfire 2 (Not great. There is a lot better location control out there)

Pyromancer's Cache: The best carddraw card in the game, if you can run this, there's no reason not to. (Unless you are running few locations)

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TLDR;

Anyway, based on the cards you've given me, if I was to try and tweak your deck, it would look like this. You really need some more draw though, so I would add in a little bit more somewhere. If you can get a hold of some of the other cards I mentioned, especially for location control, your deck will be a little bit more consistant.

Shadows and Spiders
Frey Hospitality
Hear Me Roar
Valar
All the Gold in Casterly Rock
Loyalty Money Can Buy
Breaking and Entering

Mountain Refugee x3
Bronn's Hireling x3
Kevan x1
Cersei's Attendant x2
Myrcella x1
Brothel Guard x3
Steward x2
House Payne Enforcer x2

Jaime x1
Cersei x3
Tywin x1
Gregor x1
Balon x1
Enemy Informer x1
Bronn x1
Ilyn x1
Hound x1
Arrogant Contender x2

Sunset Sea x3
Goldroad x3
Golden Tooth Mines x3
Queen Cersei's Chambers x1
Brothel x1
Western Fiefdoms x2
Casterly Rock x1

Terminal Schemes x3
Double Bluff x2
I'm You Writ Small x3
Fights no Sword can Win x2

Bastard x2
Slander and Lies x1
Vat of Wildfire x3

thanks. Lots of interesting thoughts there- had already had quite a bit of feedback from another forum, which was leading me away from kneel effects a bit.

Just to clarify- why wouldn't bodyguard protect against search and detain? it's an attachment, isn't that's all that's required.

Mighty Jim said:

Oh! Sorry, that was my mistake.