If/when they do a khorne supplement, I would not be happy if they treated like a very expansive armory. Hopefully more minion quirk rules in these too.

His:

Grrreat news, FFG! Altho' IMHO if I was doing 'em I woulda started with the "Khorne book" 1st, then Nurgle's, the Slaneeshi (either/or), leaving the Tzeentch book last (since he's the heavy hitter, changer of ways et al!) That way you could see what works & what's broken with all them others 1st mechanically.

Hey mebbe an Unaligned book too?

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Of course there will be psychic powers and rituals for all, it is the god of sorcerers and we have to make this book as marketable as possible. Just as I would expect the Khorne book to include lots of weapons / armour / combat rules / mass combat rules for all, and a Slaanesh book to include expanded minion / social / corrupting-people rules for all. Not so sure about what crunch could be loaded behind papa Nurgle.

What I really hope we get is a chaos undivided book as well, detailing lots of minor daemons, pacts and all sorts of other goodies. Most importantly, I would like to see undivided be rewarded in ways other than "you are like a Bard, you can do a little of everything, just not as well"

HARD CORE Thousand Sons player right here! Glad to see my man Tzeentch is FINALLY getting some love!

I want to see a Noise Marine archetype, somehow.

I know they got some gear in Core, that was great, but Noise Marines are more than just a couple weapons.

Plague marines, I think, too. Those are for the Slaanesh and Nurgle books, though.

My big hope is that all four books look nice together on a shelf.

I'm also hoping that we get a glimpse at the Dark Mechanicum. In a conversation about it someone suggested it'd be in the Nurgle book, as medicae and prosanguine are both Nurgle-oriented advances. But who knows.

what about Malal will he get a source book?

i have a few people that want to be aligned to Malal.

need rules for Malal

Games Workshop doesn't own the rights to Malal, so you're going to have to make house rules.

Yeah, Malal is seriously old fluff that went out the door with Moorcock (SP?). You only get the most oblique and cryptic references to Malal these days, and never ever by name. He's just not part of the game any more.

BYE

not that i think it will ever happen, but i would like to see rituals for the other "gods" out there.

if nothing else a heratick shouting a prayer to mork before a big fight is bound to mess with the orks.

then theres the laughing god, and if im not wrong, the eldar god of healing nurgal has locked up?

htsmithium said:

Every major race has their own pantheon of gods, though in the case of the Imperium it is a single, incarnate god. That said, there are various saints of varying degrees of power.

It'd be too huge a tome to cover gods outside the Emperor/Chaos Gods set, especially considering this is a game where you play chaos guys and gals.

I am looking forward to all of these books. I'm really excited to get some quality Chaos material, as GWs Chaos has felt increasingly "watered down" over the years since the Realm of Chaos books. Also, I have always been most attracted to Chaos Undivided & would be thrilled to see polytheistic Chaos worship get some love.

H.B.M.C. said:

That's a shame. Much like the Squats, GW throws away good material when they would be better served to just back-burner it until they come up with a fresh way to serve it. Sadly, they keep reducing possibilities in their setting rather than expanding them.

HappyDaze said:

As someone else said, it isn't GW's fault in this case. They quite literally CAN NOT use him. They don't own the rights for Malal anymore, so it isn't possible to create new material or a fresh take. And even something too similar could land them in trouble.

And the Squats being a good idea even with a fresh take is subjective.

Just be to a rule lawyer even if I hate those.

it's not Chaos UNaligned it's ---> Chaos UNDIVIDED

It's not chaos Aligned it's --- > Mark of Chaos Ascendant (only a single bearer of this mark is know and it is Abbaddon the Despoiler )

Lexicanum extract :

Followers of Chaos Undivided venerate Chaos itself, seeing the Gods of Chaos as a pantheon to be worshiped equally. Of all Chaos worshipers they follow Chaos in its purest form. Champions of the creed are given a Mark of Chaos Undivided.

A follower of Chaos as a whole may also honour the lesser entities of the warp if they are more likely to help him.

Others view Chaos Undivided as a unified whole, the various powers as actually an aspect of one god. They may give their service to one god but are likely to never gain much favour with an individual power.

Finally, others seek to use Chaos as a means to get to their own ends. This is often risky and only two outcomes exist, daemonhood or damnation.2

However, there are also those who don't particularly worship Chaos at all, who are also renegades - the Night Lords come into mind.

MILLANDSON said:

Short question; do they use warp tainted equipment and associate with that kind of stuff? If they do then I'd say they are in the same league as the other legions even if they've managed to tell themselves that they arn't. If they don't use it its of course an entirely different story.

Individual groups of Night Lords might, but from the fluff, it seems like the majority seems to believe that the use of daemons, warp artefacts, etc, shows a weak will, which would suggest they are more Unaligned than Undivided.

Yet furries are know to follow them... They are listed as a clearly Undivided Legion. They are just one of the more daring, thining they can use chaos instead of behing a pawn of chaos like the Word Bearers.

Lord of Night, the old NL uses a deamon entity to sheidl himslef form the psykers, yet when is old host heard is call, he sensed the corruption they had gained and saw that is fear where true.

In the end, the only trully unified legion is the Word bearer and the Black Legion, the rest are skattered warbands with very different views.

If using daemon or warp powered technology or entities made you equal to the Word Bearers, half of the Inquisition would be worse than much of what they hunt...