The Enemy Within is coming to 3ed, it's official!
Hi,
Very, very happy indeed.
If it finishes with the start of the Storm of Chaos I will be overjoyed.
Now the bad bit, waiting....
Wonderful, wounderful, WONDERFUL!
I'm really excited about these news, so now we just have to wait.
"With enough material for more than thirty [my emphasis] sessions, The Enemy Within engages players in a thrilling series of adventures"
From the sound of it, the campaign will be grand indeed.
Strangely, my favorite part is this:
"Additionally, you’ll find ... optional starting backgrounds for player characters starting into the adventure from scratch."
Excellent..... something to use for a new group of characters as my current group of players heads to retirement/hospice or Chaos Wastes by that time.
Hmm,
At 30 sessions I'm not sure I'll ever be able to really bring this thing to the table though. THat'd be about 3 years or roleplaying for us these days 
Still, nice to see the classic being freshened up. Might pick it up just to keep my collection complete.
This is awesome news! But I was about to run this just after Eye for an Eye with my new group, now I am tempted to wait.
I'm excited..but..isn't this the 3rd time this scenario series has been reproduced? 
Thankfully, we abandoned our bid to run this earlier last year..now I'll have a campaign
jh
Hell I'm excited! I wonder what the part means that this will stand as a standard for the Adventures they will release. So their Product cycle might swing really into bringing more adventures and less rules.
Also if Heros Call is their 1st Quarter product, and The enemy Within their 3rd one. Will there be a summer, 2nd Quarter, release?
Romus, I am in the same boat. I have been working on converting the old TEW to 3rd edition for my group (this will be their first WFRP game!) and now I am tempted to sort of tread water & do a bunch of smaller things. Alternatively, depending on how "inspired by" it is, maybe I try to run it after I am done with the big daddy?
Hmm. But, I am super excited for the new module, it looks awesome!
It sounds more inspired/remade/rebooted (cf Star Trek/BSG), the original didn't focus on Averland Elector did it?
But we must have an Edict of Toleration for Mutants! That's such a lovely "cat among the pigeons".
AAAH excellent. I really look forward to this.
And now that I'm no longer a playtester, it is fun to be surprised for once. I had no idea that this was coming out!!
I'm guessing, while not the same story, it will have situations similar enough that it may feel like a retread if you have just played the original.
Not that I see that as a problem. There's only so many long-form campaigns with huge, overarching conspiracies that you can run before your players want something new.
It would be like following up Gathering Storm with another small town where it is always raining. Sure, it's a different story with different threats and the players will still be surprised by what happens, but it's going to feel like doing the same stuff over again.
So very exciting indeed.
I wonder, with the 30 sessions of content, will it be split into 3 parts similar to the older iterations of the editions primary campaign? I have a hard time seeing this much content in a single supplement. I'd expect instead to maybe see it over 3 supplements.
An example might be The Gathering Storm which had 3 - 4 adventures which was roughly 10 sessions worth of play. I just cant see 3 times the content in a single box.
My guess is this is part one of a three parter.
Gitzman
Gitzman said:
My guess is this is part one of a three parter.
It's listed on the Products page as a single product, $59.99.
That's going to be a big box.
It is noted to be 30 nights worth. I think The Gathering Storm was indicated to be about 10. We finished it in 3 nights. Hopefully we get a bit longer campaign
jh
It says there are to be three adventures and an epilogue in the box.
Can't wait to learn more about this guy...
Emirikol said:
It is noted to be 30 nights worth. I think The Gathering Storm was indicated to be about 10. We finished it in 3 nights. Hopefully we get a bit longer campaign
jh
Finished it in three nights?! Wow! How long were your play times? My group are on their eleventh session and just about to start the the second from last bit. Each session is generally about 3-4 hours long too.
Each time I say to myself that I wont buy anymore for this product they release something that gets my whiskers twitching and full of roleplay excitement.
Doc, the Weasel said:
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It would be like following up Gathering Storm with another small town where it is always raining. Sure, it's a different story with different threats and the players will still be surprised by what happens, but it's going to feel like doing the same stuff over again.
My thoughts, precisely. Which makes this a hard decision for me, really. I'll buy the box, obviously. If Graeme Davis (Shadows over Bögenhafen) is involved, it is bound to be a worthy re-make. I have no doubts it will be an excellent campaign in its own rights.
But which one should I pick for my group? I assume, as you do, that you can't run both with a single group of players. I still have the grubby 1st edition books of Mistaken Identity, Shadows over Bögenhafen, Death on the Reik and so on sitting on my shelf. I game-mastered this campaign fanatically in the early 90s. I *really* enjoyed the early parts and I'd hate to give up a good Bögenhafen sewer-crawl and the madness of Castle Wittgenstein, even if the re-make provides excellent alternatives.
Hmpf.
If I had two groups, then it'd be easy. Alas, work barely permits playing twice a month. :-(
How will you guys handle this?
Gambin said:
Emirikol said:
It is noted to be 30 nights worth. I think The Gathering Storm was indicated to be about 10. We finished it in 3 nights. Hopefully we get a bit longer campaign
Finished it in three nights?! Wow! How long were your play times? My group are on their eleventh session and just about to start the the second from last bit. Each session is generally about 3-4 hours long too.
Yes, we have quick combats (we don't let players dawdle and combat turns are required to be fast or a player's turn gets skipped). I'd say each major section came out about one per night. I'd better change my answer to 4 nights of play b/c our first night was char gen and the party attempting to get across the river into Stromdorf
I can't wait for this scenario to come out. We were starting to get a bit bored. W needed a little wake-up call.
I am stoked that FFG is taking some things from the past and harnessing them to create something fresh. With it being a reimagining or reboot of the original campaign they will be free of people freaking out over certain things that may be omitted. If they just updated the campaign to 3rd edition it would show its age despite my fond memories and experiences with it. I'm sure it will only further enflame 1st and 2nd edition holdouts, but those people weren't coming along anyway so no sense trying to please them.
I can totally see why they avoided talking about their plans for this year ahead of time. Turns out they just wanted to have their product announcements carry some weight rather than the worry that they would be closing up shop and mailing us each a package of salted cod :-)
"And thanks to Fantasy Flight, The Enemy Within is back – in a way. Their new campaign set shares a title with the classic first edition campaign and explores the same themes through all-new adventures. There are still grave threats lurking in the heart of the Empire, but don’t expect to encounter Johannes Teugen in Bogenhafen or discuss philosophy with the half-cockroach mutant Ludwig von Wittgenstein. There are new enemies and new plots to uncover and thwart as the adventurers save the Empire from the forces of Chaos."
Important to note.
So it's NOT your adolescent memory's TEW. Hopefully it's 'based' enough to feel familiar but the new storyline is different enough to keep those who've played it interesting. At $60 for a boxed set that I can't flip through I'll have to wait for the reviews to come in before I commit to it.
But fond memories of the original mean I'm hoping for the best!
I liked this part, "A Skaven-based adventure provisionally titled The Horned Rat was cancelled before inception."