So I know the difficulty when trying to shake temporary insanities is d0, but what is the difficulty for recovering from permenant insanities?

Good Question,

The way it is written, I would assume 0d as well, but how would they generate the negative side effect of 2 banes? Reckless stance I suppose...

Anyone got a more official answer?

That's what I thought as well, until I read about the bane effect....

The rules for permanent insanity recovery are very inclear. I think they simply forgot to play test them or proof read that section.

I have the PC pay for a month in an asylum (prices in my house rulebook), and have them make a check then.

jh

for temporary the check difficulty is based on the number of tokens your have on the card, you get one each time you suffer one more stress than twice your WP i think.

for the permanent we also havent found a way yet. first we thought the difficulty was based on the severity, but how should a character with WP 2 overcome a severity 4 insanity then?
we now base the difficulty on the conditions under which the check is made. is it at a shallya temple or hospital like place its 0d, in a gasthaus for example it might be 1d, increasing to the maximum of 3d i think. always depending on how "well" you feel in the place you make the check

I got the answer from FFG

"> Rule Question:
> Dear support member,
>
> In Player's Guide chapter 9, page 92, under "Recovering from Insanity" it states "A character can remove an insanity by succeeding at a number of Discipline checks equal to the intensity of the insanity, as shown on the individual insanity card." Shortly after, in page 93 it says "On these Discipline checks, critical failure indicates not only a lack of progress, but a slow immersion into the madness. If the Discipline check fails and generates 2 or more banes, remove 1 success from the characters attempts towards recovery."
>
> Which is the default difficulty for one of these tests? Simple, Easy, Average, Hard, Daunting...?
>
> Thank you in advance for your help.
> Yepes"

" Yepes,

These checks should be Average (2d) difficulty.

Enjoy the game!

~Dan Clark
Creative Content Developer
Fantasy Flight Games "

I hope it helps.

Yepesnopes said:

That helps a lot.