Real usage stats of Heavy Walkers?

By player774644, in Dust Tactics General Discussion

As I don't have the heavy walkers myself and haven't played with them I'm interested in knowing about the average life expectancy and some other things of the heavy walkers, and hope the ones of you that have fielded them want to share your input. What I am interested in is the psychology of you and your opponent when heavies show up. When answering please do so from experience and practice: Only tell what usually happens, not theory and what could have happened.

Questions

  1. Which heavy walker(s) do you have experience with & how many games have you played with them?
  2. What kind of army point ranges are you using when playing games that involve a heavy?
  3. How many rounds does your heavy survive, in average?
  4. Do the opponents usually try to kill it off quickly? Is it usually a primary target?
  5. What size and cover/obstacle-density do the battles tend to have (i.e. 12 squares, medium density)
  6. How often does it happen that heavies attack each other? (never, it happens, often)
  7. Has it been a real drawback that it is easy to target your heavy?
  8. If you had the ability to repair your heavy, did you do it or did you usually end up repairing something else?
  9. Would you describe the heavies you played with as worth their Army Point cost?
  10. After playing, do you generally feel it was a correct decision to field a heavy? Why (not)?

Which heavy walker(s) do you have experience with & how many games have you played with them?

-Punisher, Fireball, Konigsluther

What kind of army point ranges are you using when playing games that involve a heavy?

-400-600

How many rounds does your heavy survive, in average?

-4

Do the opponents usually try to kill it off quickly? Is it usually a primary target?

-For the Fireball Yes and yes, for the Punisher and Konigsluther Yes, and not primary but up their.

What size and cover/obstacle-density do the battles tend to have (i.e. 12 squares, medium density)

-Generally on the lower side we have been using them with the Cerberus buildings and most of the scenarios in Op. Cerberus are good for heavies.

How often does it happen that heavies attack each other? (never, it happens, often)

-If both side are fielding heavies its almost always head to head.

Has it been a real drawback that it is easy to target your heavy?

-No, they can take enough fire that even with multiple units targeting a heavy it is laborious to destroy.

If you had the ability to repair your heavy, did you do it or did you usually end up repairing something else?

-When playing Allies I have tried to repair with Rosie and failed though my opponent has had success in the area.

Would you describe the heavies you played with as worth their Army Point cost?

-Almost always.

After playing, do you generally feel it was a correct decision to field a heavy? Why (not)?

-Yes, they can take massive amounts of damage and they can really make a dent in the enemy forces.

I am an Axis Player most of the time.

Ulrike Meinhof said:

As I don't have the heavy walkers myself and haven't played with them I'm interested in knowing about the average life expectancy and some other things of the heavy walkers, and hope the ones of you that have fielded them want to share your input. What I am interested in is the psychology of you and your opponent when heavies show up. When answering please do so from experience and practice: Only tell what usually happens, not theory and what could have happened.

Questions

  1. Which heavy walker(s) do you have experience with & how many games have you played with them?
  2. What kind of army point ranges are you using when playing games that involve a heavy?
  3. How many rounds does your heavy survive, in average?
  4. Do the opponents usually try to kill it off quickly? Is it usually a primary target?
  5. What size and cover/obstacle-density do the battles tend to have (i.e. 12 squares, medium density)
  6. How often does it happen that heavies attack each other? (never, it happens, often)
  7. Has it been a real drawback that it is easy to target your heavy?
  8. If you had the ability to repair your heavy, did you do it or did you usually end up repairing something else?
  9. Would you describe the heavies you played with as worth their Army Point cost?
  10. After playing, do you generally feel it was a correct decision to field a heavy? Why (not)?

We primarily play the scenarios so as a result the heavies have only been used a few times in a few random death matches. I primarily play Axis so here goes a review of my favorite heavy.

1. I like using the Sturm-Konig due to its reactive fire, relatively cheap cost and balanced weaponry.

2. Points wise about 400 usually.

3. It usually lasts about 3 rounds due being such a huge target. It is really easy to get line of sight on something that is 2x2 squares.

4. Yes although most of the time Lara is the primary target first.

5. Pretty much 12 squares and medium density since it gets stuck otherwise.

6. Only once so far and a lone Luther got the final blow against that Punisher in the end.

7. Sort of but with the reactive fire usually going off it gives the Sturm-Konig a chance.

8. Never had a chance to yet, the Kommandotruppe/s are usually buisy doing something more usefull.

9. Sturm-Konig yes definetly, not so sure about the Konigs-Luther since it seems to be designed for Dust Warfare.

10. Yes, it is a bargain for the points cost as far as I am concerned AS LONG as you battlefield can support its 2x2 profile.

Questions

Which heavy walker(s) do you have experience with & how many games have you played with them?

Konigsluther

What kind of army point ranges are you using when playing games that involve a heavy?
150 point straight armor battle

How many rounds does your heavy survive, in average?
2 rounds

Do the opponents usually try to kill it off quickly? Is it usually a primary target?
Yes, they fired everything they could at it. All four rockets from a Steal Rain and one pounder ATTACK and one SUSTAINED Pounder attack to take it out.

What size and cover/obstacle-density do the battles tend to have (i.e. 12 squares, medium density)
12 squares, medium density (probably not the best situation to field one)

How often does it happen that heavies attack each other? (never, it happens, often)
Not yet

Has it been a real drawback that it is easy to target your heavy?
Yes and no, it caused the Allied player to expose 3 medium walkers to fire from other walkers.

If you had the ability to repair your heavy, did you do it or did you usually end up repairing something else?
No repair. Wouldn't have mattered really.

Would you describe the heavies you played with as worth their Army Point cost?

Yes, the heavy cost 95 points . Though it only took out a Steal Rain for 38 points directly, it caused the loss of an additional 80 points by the allies when they exposed two Pounders to attack.

After playing, do you generally feel it was a correct decision to field a heavy? Why (not)?
Yes, we won. The heavy struck fear in the Allied players making them sacrifice more to take down the heavy. Though in the future I think I would want to have a larger more open battlefield.