vyexcel said:

No I think its more like you god drew those boxes bro good job .

Protoaddict said:

Only one copy of Hoyoku can clear, not that big a deal compared to Stun and off-center zone. And higher damage. 9 more damage, in fact.

Scubadude said:

Could be, but I didn't get any spintas, blades, or pleasures

No all copies of Hoyoku-Sen can clear the card pool. Please read the card..."If this attack or any of its multiple copies deal damage, discard IT from your card pool." It doesn't say just the first one...or just the last one. If it deals damage it gets discarded.

Proto is right. You need a 5 rather than a 7, its check is better, with big dreams its easy enough to give each one +5 damage (when you are playing chun-li's response)...you can get quite a bit out of Hoyoku especially running of of water.

Spike is good don't get me wrong, but there are many other great finishers and attacks out there that you can run to win games. It's really about personal preferance and what works better in a deck.

As far as pulling the spikes...meh its distribution and luck. Sometimes you'll pull the card you want and other times you won't. It is just the way card games work with random packs. Spike wasn't the easiest thing to get in our play group either. I believe we only have a total of 5 spikes between our play group of 12 guys and I have 3 of them. It just happens that way...

Actually, Hoyo can only clear 1 attack. It's been ruled as such, sir.

Lunar Slash > Feline Spike for ME, but that's because Spike doesn't have Order. I'd take the larger damage (Personal Style on Slash) and lower difficulty, PLUS the ability to draw cards, over the Stun and Reversal any day.

But then again, I like my iSpins more than Spike, so what do I know?

MegaGeese said:

Because spinta is amazing and you realize that geese !!

My bad geese. Didn't catch that topic yet when I had posted. It will be nice when you don't have to have the q&a section of the forums up every game to see just how "if" or "when" works in your situation. Just another reason why I can't wait for the new TR coming out in March.

Buy yeah I-Spin ftw!

WhatAboutBob? said:

i definately agree. i-spin is in many situitions beter than spike and iSpin has order.

Omg i've created a monster (of a topic). First off I would like to apologize. When I posted I was about to go to sleep after JUST finishing opening the boxes, and I was a bit on tilt. The company I bought them from lied to me about the amount of boxes as well as the price, and it took over two times longer to ship than indicated, so I was giddy as a schoolgirl when they arrived. I guess it just got to me.

Honestly I probably have not even bothered posting anything if there was even one spike in there. I know a couple ppl who have posted so far think im disapointed that I didn't get 17 of them, but that couldn't be farther from the truth. I know I can play UFS without them, I have for X years and I will continue to for (hopefully) X years more. Its just nice if I could play with/own one before I die .

I know my post was inappropriate, and I apologize again, but please refrain from using phrases like "Cry some more." Your not playing counter-strike and your not 10 years old . Antigoth - I greately appreciate the advice about the trading site, I think I would like to participate if able. Could you give me the URL, or if its against forum rules you can email me at [email protected] . I still need to re-figure out how to do the edit your post trick (if that still works) so I can create a trade list in these forums. Time to go hunting. Wish me luck >_<

Tader Salad said:

Click the link in my signature - or http://www.teamcanadaonline.net

It has UFS articles and contests and stuff too!

http://new.fantasyflightgames.com/edge_foros_editar.asp?efid=26&efcid=5&efidt= 59235 &efidm= 59936

That's the edit link for this post.

the bold #'s would be the post # of your trade thread.

The itallics is the individual post within the thread.

Ok heres a test.

Write down the amount of times you have won a game from playing feline spike.

Write down the amount of times you have lost a game from checking a 1 during the course of the game.

Write down the amount of times you have wont the game with (any attack with a 3 check that was your kill condition)

Write down the amount of times you have lost a game from checking a 3 during the course of the game.

Now follow this logic and tell me if Feline spike is that great really. for everyone who likes to point out it does more damage than x y or z i will still point out to you that it is a 7 difficulty 1 check. Anti K ruins it. Forethough ruins it. Checking it ruins you.

I dont see it. It has its place in suicide felecia decks granted, and she is the character that it was made for so that makes sense. but honestly I cant tell you how much better I think G phantom is in the long run. Or how 9 damage more, stun 2, and multiple protection really still dosent justifiably make it better than a 3 check attack with 2 less difficulty. I would even go as far as to say that a card like Fei longs foward kick is better than spike, cause in at least one characters deck its a win condition with 4 less difficulty and 2 more control. The damage is moot because of what it does with that character, and thats why saying spike is so much better on its own merits than all these other attacks is just silly.

My point stand though, theres other viable win conditions that on the right charater, in the right deck, statistically win more than spike builds. For all its worth ive seen defender loop megaspike decks that won much more consistently than most spike decks and ive also seen spike decks that basicly on there first turn lose the game from rolling a spike.

Wow.. I must just be luck then.. I got 3 feline spikes out of 4 boxes.. 2x playsets of spinnas from 4x boxes and a couple trades. Not trying to rub it in since I've lost out plenty of times with other SRs such as Addes Syndicate back in the days.. 0 out of 4 boxes.

GraveLord said:

hey Thai!

want bad luck? you say you pulled 0 of a certain SR out of 4 boxes?

out of set 11, and 9 boxes total (4.5 each) i neglected to pull:

galactica phantom, and spinning beat

it wasn't until later, when i saw some trade cards a friend had, that i realized i ALSO neglected to pull:

gift from a friend, huge apetite, and sonic boom extra

i HONESTLY had no idea these cards were even PART of this set.

*crunches numbers*

that's FIVE different super rares that i pulled no copies of. i win. er... or something >.<

GouHadou said:

That's because you have no friends! AHAHAHAHA! I kid, of course. You left your guard down.

I think Set 11 is a strange bird...I've pulled pretty much every SR I *didn't* want (Spinning Beat, Annu Mutsube, Hoyoko-Sen, etc), but almost none of the ones I *did* want - I bought or traded for my Sonic Boom Extras, and have pulled 0 High Tide, Blue Dragon, Omega Jacket, Neo Raging Storm, etc. =/

GouHadou said:

i told you that you should've had me open your boxes >_> i've had pretty good with boxes lately... like that freak box that gave me 16 URs

I read Omar's post and my first thought was "Should have let Dani open the boxes"

She has magic pack fingers.

My store pulled 3 Spinning Beats out of 4 boxes so I thought they were gonna be easy to get...

Archimedes said:

damnit. you're right. should have learned my lesson from nats - dani opens ALL packs.

i'm definitely flying her in next time

'sides, I'm still not convinced Aggro's any good. Ergo, so long as you don't kill in one shot, your kill condition is useless.

Protoaddict said:

EXACTLY !!

Fred knows first hand the draw back of that card I lost in our match at worlds because I check spike 3 turns in a row despite having a 77 card deck yes folks it happens . Then at SAS playing against order control had destiny opening hand and time walk spike first check of the game. Of course he drops triple forethought turn one you can guess how that game went.

As for set 11 I got 4 boxes of SF 1 spinning beat and 3 of SNK and 1 neo raging storm I need get 6 charasmatics in 4 boxes so that was nice . Then one of our other players bought one box of each and got spinning beat and neo raging storm so I guess its just luck lol .

Shiros said:

Yes, but you can only do that if you are playing Chun-Li. I'd still rather throw a Feline Spike at them on their turn, since Chun-Li can play that as well.

Proto

I can count 25 games I have won because of playing a Feline Spike (out of the 30 games I played with the deck)

I also count 0 games lost because of checking a 1. (The aggro decks in those 5 games killed me turn 2)

So, Feline Spike is still better, and Multiple Protection does nothing if I use Spikes enhance, they cannot be discarded from the card pool.

The other attacks listed earlier are good attacks in their own right, but in a deck that I could use any attack on the list or Feline Spike, I will always choose Spike, it is just better in the symbols it has. The other attacks are some of the better attacks for the symbols they are in, so they are good for different decks under different circumstances. But for the symbols that they do share, Spike is superior.

Scubadude said:

To me, Ira-Spinta is oddly underused. Perhaps it's because it's a UR and it's already sold out, but man am I glad I forked over money to get a set... now they're going for twice as much. If they aren't sold out.

Need I remind everyone that Spinta is the ONLY Order asset destruction available in Block 3?

And hopefully it also stays that way.

guitalex2008 said:

Actually order has all the bison support that can blow up assets unless its a static ability on a asset.

Okay, I confess. I am perturbed to no end. Why? Feline this, Feline that. Has it come to your attention that there are other kill conditions that can be used. Sure Spike is brutal, but look at Neo Raging Storm, Raising Storm, Lunar Slash, Kuzyu Reppa, Ryu's Shin Shoruken, Tiger Fury, and Spinta to name a few. Oh and Spinnig Beat...I need to add that b/c someone will. Look dude, chill. There is no point to freaking out over one set. Look elswhere and I am sure you will find something that will surprise you to no end.

Feline Spike is one attack, a really good attack, that sadly is overshadowing all the other cool attacks in prior sets and new ones alike. I don't have a single Spike and I do belive that we only have one set and a half, but that card is not the only card that I can use to kill off my opponent. Look at Raising Storm. That card is nasty as hell. Stun and an E: that allows me to commit my opponents foundations, can't complain here.

out of 34 packs of wariors dream, i pulled 3 sonic boom extras and a sardines beach special. out of 10 packs of domination i pulled 4 bitter rivals, 2 shin shurkens, every charecter in the set (god pack), and 1 tiger fury. i pulled arogance and 4 ways of the punishment out of half a king of fighters 2006 box. i have bought a gazilion flash of blades packs and still no defender and only 2 maternal instincts. sometimes your lucky, sometimes your not.