2 Champs and a Chump Episode 46- Groupthink #1

By Kennon, in 1. AGoT General Discussion

Alrighty guys, here we are with a special treat. An episode a day early! Or at least several hours Hopefully this will slightly make up for my big delay in getting the episode up and running last week.

Go check it here.

This week we experiment with a new concept and spend a rather lengthy episode on building a deck as a group, and coming to concensus on the process in doing so. I personally feel like it's among our best episodes, so I hope you like it as well. I'm itching to try the deck. I'll give a few people a chance to take a gander and then post the official decklist here in a few hours.

Nice, looking forward to this. Oh, and please make sure to include a spoiler tag for the decklist. :)

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Group Deck 1

House (1)
House Greyjoy (Core) x1


Agenda (1)
The Builders (ASitD) x1


Character (32)
Alannys Greyjoy (ODG) x2
Maester Murenmure (CbtC) x1
Euron Crow's Eye (TGM) x2
Satin (WLL) x2
Maester Aemon (Core) x1
Samwell Tarly (TRS) x2
Qhorin Halfhand (LoW) x1
Tarle the Thrice-Drowned (RotO) x1
Maester Wendamyr (KotS) x1
Carrion Bird (ASoS) x3
Asha Greyjoy (WLL) x1
Baelor Blacktyde (TIoR) x1
Distinguished Boatswain (TftRK) x3
Island Refugee (RoW) x3
Newly Made Lord (TftH) x3
Theon Greyjoy (WLL) x1
Kingsmoot Hopeful (FtC) x2
Dagmer Cleftjaw (KotS) x1
Balon Greyjoy (KotS) x1


Location (20)
River Blockade (RoR) x1
Longship Iron Victory (KotS) x1
Longship Black Wind (CbtC) x1
Fishmonger's Square (TftRK) x2
The Iron Mines (KotS) x3
The Iron Cliffs (HtS) x2
Flea Bottom (TGM) x1
River Row (QoD) x1
Street of Silk (LotR) x1
Gatehouse (KotS) x3
Street of Sisters (Core) x1
Street of Steel (Core) x1
Sunset Sea (KotS) x2


Event (8)
Finger Dance (WLL) x3
To Be a Kraken (SB) x3
Ill Tidings (IG) x2


Attachment (0)


Plot (7)
Fury of the Kraken (AE) x1
A Time for Ravens (ACoS) x1
At the Gates (GotC) x1
Retaliation! (ASoSilence) x1
Valar Morghulis (Core) x1
Search and Detain (HtS) x1
Breaking and Entering (LotR) x1


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Sweet, GJ. I'll give it a listen!

I don't see it in the link.

EDIT: I found the episode on Cardgamedb.

I'd like to ask about the reliability of Tarly as a draw engine. and if he works just the same in joust as in melee.

Is he something you search for? or is it just nice when you do draw him? I was working on a targ summer deck with him as a draw engine, but by the end of it, he was gone and TMP was in...

oshi said:

I'd like to ask about the reliability of Tarly as a draw engine. and if he works just the same in joust as in melee.

Is he something you search for? or is it just nice when you do draw him? I was working on a targ summer deck with him as a draw engine, but by the end of it, he was gone and TMP was in...

I have found sam to do well, but if he is your only draw engine ( +summer obviously) I think you should be running many copies of him in a deck instead of one since using him even once or twice can be a game changer. Also good tactic if you are running many is to not play him out before you can also drop a raven in the same marshaling phase.

Also nice deck guys. ;) As GJ has always been my favorite house and I do toy with a lot of their cards and even with a decks like this (well not exactly night's watch :D) and can say that it looks very balanced.

Also thank you Greg for the Flea Bottom. With it to be a kraken is just so much better and playing newly made lord for 1 is perfect.

Thee best episode so far. Very useful to inform thinking.

Really great.

Would like to hear you all make a second deck and then have an episode similar to #11 where you play the two decks against each other. That would close the circle from card selection to deck building to strategy in gameplay.

In fact if you do a series of groupthink decks you could always play the new deck vs the previous deck and that would allow you to think about beating that deck as a way to have a psudo-metagame discussion.

Infernarl said:

Would like to hear you all make a second deck and then have an episode similar to #11 where you play the two decks against each other. That would close the circle from card selection to deck building to strategy in gameplay.

Agreed. Whether or not you build a second on air, you've made this deck, and you all seemed pretty excited about its potential. Let's see (or hear) it in action. As a relatively inexperienced AGoT player, I found this episode very helpful. Please do more!

Called to Court is a nice plot when you have good coming into play effects like raven draw and Newly Made Lord. Drop a lord in and bring a raven back then replay the raven in marshalling for 2 cards off Sam, or lord into play then back to hand again. I really like this plot.

Infernarl said:

Would like to hear you all make a second deck and then have an episode similar to #11 where you play the two decks against each other. That would close the circle from card selection to deck building to strategy in gameplay.

In fact if you do a series of groupthink decks you could always play the new deck vs the previous deck and that would allow you to think about beating that deck as a way to have a psudo-metagame discussion.

Excellent idea(s)

This was a particularly good episode...nice work guys.

I just got a chance to listen to it today - and I also feel that was one of the strongest episodes to date. I really enjoyed it!

Yeah best episode to date, imo. Also why is the audio so much better on this one? The audio was perfect! I'd like to see a deck built for each house actually. Then you guys have a tournament to see which one wins.

i want to like this podcast series so much but for me it is just too hard to listen to. not content wise, just literally listening to it. the volume changes, the over modulation, hosts talking over eachother and SCREAMING laughter into the mics simultaneously hurts my ears. the content seems great though, maybe i could just read a transcript or something, though i think it'd have a lot of caps and exclamation points.

Have you listened to this episode? the audio quality is perfect!

I agree that this was an outstanding episode. The best since I've been a listener, by a wide margin.