Hello, all!

I was wondering if it would be possible to bind a minor daemon to a weapon. By "minor" I mean that the poor thing has no Infamy score. Would I use an Infamy rating of "0" if I for the purposes of determining the Weapon Effects?

Does anyone have an example of creating a daemon weapon that they'd be willing to share?

Yes. In fact, the daemon weapons gained from rewards use Daemons without infamy score. And yes, you don't get to add any infamy to a single roll. However, as you still roll 1D100 per attribute, you can still generate quite a few solid traits.

As for an example, sure.

First, you must perform the summoning ritual, using all appropriate modifiers etc listed in that chapter, resolved as the ritual write-up says. For daemons without a summoning ritual, you must invent, in or out of character, appropriate rituals.

Let's say we're summoning a screamer of Tzeentch. We succeed at this, done!

Presuming the summoning succeeds, you then perform the daemonic mastery test, once again using all appropriate modifiers.

Once again, let's just assume we succeed.

You must then perform the daemon weapon crafting ritual, which is in the back of the Daemon weapon section. Note down the DoS achieved on this test. The DoS equals the binding strength.

We succeed again, barely. We score 1 DoS. Thus the binding strength is 1.

Add the listed traits and statistics referred to in the ritual, which should be in the front of the Daemon weapon section, such as Daemons WP bonus to damage etc etc

In our case, we'd add +4 to damage and penetration, alongside the immunity to power weapons and such.

Now you generate attributes. You roll a number of d100's equal to the daemons WP bonus - the binding strength, to a minimum of 1. Prior to rolling, determine which table to roll on. This may either be the unaligned one, or the one belonging to the same god as the Daemon, if any. A single roll may be modified by the daemon's infamy score, if the Daemon has one.

We roll 3 times. Let's say once on the Tzeentch table and twice on the unaligned one. The Daemon has no infamy, so nothing there. We roll, let's say Impossibly Sharp, Wounding and Warp Flame. Assuming this is a melee weapon, it now gains:

Warp Weapon, Crippling (4), Flame, Proven (3).

Note it all down, write it up, update the weapon's stat block. Daemon weapon is now done.

Finally, perform a daemonic mastery test for the wielder, giving the Daemon a penalty equal to binding strength times 5.

In this case, the Daemon rolls a wp of 40 with a penalty of -5.

To continue from the subject, say you get Deamon Weapon from Rewards of the Gods. What do you actually get? Can you just choose any weapon and go through the binding process without rolling or what? How have you played these Rewards?

You would go through the binding process without rolling, since no character is making it. Nobody gets a daemon weapon without a daemon successfully bound into it, after all. The daemon is determined by the gift itself.

As for the real crux, which is determining binding strength and special abilities, I'd say the player sets the binding strength. Their possession, after all, and the appropriate number of attributes is rolled based on said binding strength.

As for the weapon: either pick one in the player's possession or, possibly, negotiations with the GM for something fitting both the god giving it and the character receiving it.

Yeah, same lines of thoughts. You'll get a "factory-made" deamon weapon that doesn't benefit from the demons infamy as normal lesser demons don't have any. It's probably wise to let the player decide the level of binding. All in all seems to require some negotiation, but nothing too complicated.

Hi, I've noticed in the black crusade core rule book page 197 in the description of the weapon attribute called Stream of corruption there's a weapon quality listed as stream that I haven't been able to find anywhere. Can you guys come up with an explanation. On my side I just beleive that this is to clarify that this is an alternate means of fire for the weapon. Thx.

maybe a new damge per round attack?
although personally im gonna guess at a "to be errata'd" sticker going onto it

Illithid13 said:

You can pretty much ignore that weapon trait, it's still an amazing attack. 30m Spray, 2d10+WPB Felling (2), Toxic (3), Warp Weapon. In fact, I can't think of anything that a trait Called Stream would do that isn't already covered by Spray.

Alright so it's pretty much what I thought, thanks for the answers guys.