Robb buffs Lord trait, gets killed, comes back via narrow escape. What exactly happens with his ability?

dh098017 said:

More specifically, does the effect he originally triggered get re-applied to him upon his re-entry into play? And since he is now coming back into play 'fresh' is he allowed to trigger it again.

The trigger that creates the strength buff is a lasting one till the end of the phase, so it will continue to apply to any character who meets the criteria so when bringing Robb back he will come into play and straight away get his +1/+2 for that phase.

Being able to trigger it again is something that im not sure on but i would go with no, while cards have no 'memory' of what they where ,or have done when in play my understanding is that the game will keep track of effects and limits and Robbs triggered ability will still be in effect, its a little trickier as its not a limited response (only 1 limited response per round), but if robbs ability is canceled then its limit is still reached and couldnt be triggered again and i suspect something similar will stop it being triggered again should he return form the dead pile.

You are correct that the lasting effect stays active through to the end of the phase, no matter what happens to Robb. Look at it this way: if Robb's effect was on an event card, which went to the discard pile immediately, what would happen to the effect? It'd still be there, right? So Robb once triggered, killing Robb does not end the effect - only the end of the phase does. Which means the effect is still there if he comes back in the same phase thanks to something like Narrow Escape.

As for being able to use his ability again, the card that returns to play is considered to be a completely different card. There is indeed no memory of any effect that had been placed on the card. That includes the limit on his ability (which is card specific - unlike, say, a "Limited Response" which is more player specific). So it could be used again. (The only exception to this would be if the limit is "once per game.")

So if Robb named the Lord trait, leaves play, then comes back, then names lord again, does he benefit from +4 (if it was winter)? I had read somewhere that only characters that were in play at the time that effect was triggered would get the +2.

As Ktom said, robbs limit is 'reset' (for lack of a better word atm) when brought back, and the previous effect wont end till the end of the phase regardless of what happens to him, so if he is brought back and used his ability again he would get +4 in winter for lord or king (or whatever if he is given another trait).

My mistake was thinking that triggered effects that have a built in limit (like robbs 1 per round) would be remembered on a 'global' scale by the game mechanics (like 1 limited response per round) when it is the card itself that does that, new card = limit not reached.

Underworld40k said:

I don't think I am making myself clear in the question I am trying to ask so let me give a simpler example. If I have Robb in play during marshalling, name the lord trait, then marshal blackfish, does blackfish get the str boost?

I understand that with a constant effect like Threat from the North, the effect is automatically applied to any character as soon as it hits the table, however with an ability like robb's, that i thought (perhaps mistakenly) was a lasting effect, that only cards in play at the time of the trigger have the effect applied to them, and any subsequent valid targets that come into play later do not get the boost.

dh098017 said:

dh098017 said:

The wording of Robb's effect creates a lasting effect that works on all of your characters with the trait. It is in no way limited to only "some" of your characters with the trait by timing, etc. The effect hits anyone with that trait, no matter when the character comes into play (or gains/loses the trait) over its duration.

If Robb said something like "...Choose each of your characters with that trait...," then he would be limited to just the characters in play at the time the effect was triggered because that original effect only created the STR boost relative to the chosen characters, not a general boost relative to the trait. There are cards that do that, but it is not something you can generally assume about all lasting effects.

EDIT: Bottom line; Yes, if you trigger Robb for "Lord," then play or put into play another Lord during that phase, the "new" Lord will receive the STR boost, too.

perfect, ty.