So they are blessing us with POD. Happy, happy, happy! Joy, joy, joy!

http://fantasyflightgames.com/edge_news.asp?eidn=2999

Is this a good thing? I would prefer to buy one "Signs of Faith 2" expansion, with new powers, than buying each of the cult powers per separate. I hope that after Call of Heroes, they still do other expansiopn, and not just print on demand ...

To be honest that's absolutely BS... an RPG with booster packs.

lol sad.

BUT if they instead use it right then it's quite good. To update material for instance. They could make a booster pack with óld cards that have been updated.

"Faith of Sigmar introduces fifteen new blessings and two new items full of righteous wrath!"

Cards for one focused career out of 60+? Well, I guess its something and I'll try to diversify for other careers too. I ordered them, but only b/c our group has a sigmar priest (currently).

www.fantasyflightgames.com/edge_minisite.asp

jh

I ordered my copy straight away. Hope to recieve it within a couple of weeks. One in my group is making a new character, Sigmar Priest, on sunday. He will be sooooo happy hear that i got some new cards for him.

So what's the story with availability in Europe?

Thats a sad news for me.

I'm angry and mad on FFG for making PoD for WFRP 3e. HATE IT!

I would rather buy a new Signs Of Faith 2 then buy a PoD for every Faith and as I assume after that for every Order.

And I wonder if will we see it in Europe? And fi yes then how long we have to wait for it?

PoD for WFRP 3e - the world is going mad.

I think it's great myself. By doing it this way it allows a group to only get the ones they actually need as opposed to buying all of them and thus keep their own gaming costs down. Now for me this won't matter since I will get them all anyways, but for non compleatists it sounds great to me. Oh, that and it lets us get new cards much faster than It would otherwise

FFG can't win can they?

People scream bloody murder how horrible it is that FFG "refuses" to set up POD for the game. Then they scream bloody murder when it is finally offered.

Personally, I think it's great. I won't be picking it up, though, until I have a player who can use the cards. I appreciate that I am not forced to buy 8 cults worth of cards to furnish my 1 priest.

Hmm, dunno. They say that they make POD for products which usually wouldnt been released. So before you wait two years for the next Signs of Faith 2, just grab your POD.

If they release some more PODs I will buy the ones I need. Also if they want to add Dwarf careers or Action Cards for Engineers or Runesmith they wouldnt make a Black Fire Pass 2. But a Dwarf POD could be made in less time. But it is quite interesting that FFG has made a complete Product Site for it.

Doc, the Weasel said:

Couldn't agree more. I'm waiting for the first post that interpretes the new POD-option as an omen of the final downfall of WRFP3.

This is a good thing. The POD system allow FFG to publish options that SMALL demand couldn't otherwise justify.

Dont have a player of that faith? Then no need to buy. I hope this is the first of many career specific PODs. Particularly the faiths and orders that are so splintered.

But, you know, complain on about how it doesn't quite suit your needs or heralds the end of gamerdom ;D

I'll buy it. And hope they do more interesting things with it.

Bought. Would love to see more of this, as others said, this allows small sets of niche cards to reach market. A bundle of dwarf runes and sets of item cards that wouldn't otherwise reach market, things like that. Works for me!

I'm debating trying to get more miles out of the spells and blessings by having more crossover between them. For example, allowing a priest of Mannan to access certain spells of a different order or faith.

Maybe I'll work on that this weekend.

It looks like from teh picture that there's some kind of magical hammer for priests of sigmar as well. Seems a useful compared to the Hammer of Kordren which was a more of a delivery macguffin.

jh

I'm not sure what to make of this:

Note: Due to variations in the printing process, cards from Print on Demand expansions will be subtly different in appearance and texture from base game cards.

I'm also kind of torn on this. I'm hoping eventually these POD things would get boxed up and sold as a regular, boxed, supplement at least. I don't want the only option to ever get these cards coming from POD basically. However, it would be great if they added previous published cards to POD, so if you want to double up on all the dwarf stuff (for example), you don't have to get two boxes of the dwarf set, but can just purchase the action/talent/career cards and not the books and other components that might not be needed.

As long as they keep the card quality equal to the box release, I'm pleased with this actually. I have purchased other print on demand stuff from ffg and been fine with it.

Pleased mostly because I think it's a good business decision and will help keep WFRP alive and profitable for FFG. Right now, the system is mostly a "one person (GM likely) buys everything" approach. So for every 4-7 or so players, you have one person buying stuff. If print on demand puts out career/player specific stuff you get more than one person likely buying it - and an RPG company needs to find ways to sell more stuff, just WOTC has been putting out lots of "class specific" packages of stuff lately for D&D.

Not that I quite want WFRP to become a "living card game" with a "monthly pack" coming out, oh wait a minute, if they can keep quality right, if this would let us see more Dark Magic, Necromancy, more Mounted Combat stuff, more Dwarf Stuff, the High Elven magic stuff, ohhh, bring it on then!

In terms of value you can also turn it around from money grab and say, "so if you have no Sigmar priests, skip it, when they put out the Shallyan one and you have a Shallyan priest snag it" rather than have to buy a "more spells for everyone" supplement costing more when you don't have "everyone" at your table.

My only bit of sadness with this release is that only yesterday I finally put in my order for the new Death Angel POD, lol

The quality on all of their other POD stuff has been top notch - and here I'm specifically referring to the card stock, finish, art and layouts. Where they call out manufacturing variances is that the shade of green on one side of the action cards may be ever so slightly darker/lighter than the current. This really isn't an issue from what I've seen, even in cases where you have a randomized, shuffled deck.

Do you think amazon will carry this?

Don't know, one of the local game stores in Toronto does carry at least some ffg print on demands (401 Games had the Osgilliath LoTR one).

I appear to be in the minority but I'm not that happy about this. I like to have all the material on hand, and as the GM I'm sole purchaser, and in Australia these POD packs are pricier and hard to find. But quite apart from that, I don't like how the game is getting so many cards; it's hard enough now to keep track of all the stuff for players and GMs, and soon we'll need a ping-pong table to display everything necessary.

I like the system, I just wish it was more streamlined. For our group it's beginning to groan under its own weight and the cards and mechanics are detracting from the roleplaying and turning it into the glorified boardgame that everyone was intially worried it would be. In fact I'm beginning to consider going back to second edition for the first time since this edition came out. That edition concentrated on background material and adventures, not action cards.

I don't knock FFG for coming up with a clever and viable business model for a RPG - good on them - I just don't like this possibility of them dribbling out packs of POD cards in an endless stream of 'extra stuff'.

Of course, I could be completely wrong!

UniversalHead said:

To each their own I suppose. Though, other than your complaint regarding the price being higher where you're located, I don't understand the problem. Would you rather that FF release these in larger expansions with more cards (i.e. Winds of Magic, Omens of War, etc)? If so, you would still have the same component bloat problem as before.

I can also agree that FF does need to, at some point, put some of its resources into expanding the setting (read "fluff") rather than the mechanics.

When it really comes down to it...none of the stuff that has been released aside from the Core set, is even necessary to own in order to play. If you've got a home printer and access to Strange Eons, you can just print your own cards....the system makes homebrewed Actions, Talents, Careers, etc VERY easy to create. And if spending money on printer ink is an issue, then just write it down (ala the WH "lite" hardcover suggestions).

We should all be at least a LITTLE bit happy that Fantasy Flight is even continuing to support this line, much less put out new content every couple of months. It seems like they're in this for the long haul and don't intend to drop the license anytime soon. So here's to hoping that we'll see a Campaign (read "fluff") Expansion Boxed Set in the near future to balance out all the component bloat we've gotten up until this point.

I got me 2 copies... now give us:

Career cards with selectable character art that includes the same art on the career ability card

Customized Packs, select any 14 cards you would like copies of and print away.

GoblynKing said:

That was kind of my point. I'd like to see less new action cards, more useful solid content. Look, I know no one is forcing me to buy this stuff, I'd just like to see an emphasis on making a good roleplaying game with good adventures, not churning out yet more components when we're already swimming in them. And thre is a problem with lots and lots of cards for players, I think. It's like playing Descent and trying to remember all the modifiers to your sword blow, referencing and reading ten cards just to work it out everytime you want to hit. Maybe it's a boring old school perspective, though I don't think so as I've embraced the new system pretty comprehensively. The start of POD packs of cards just seems to be the start of what could be a slippery slope.

It would have been nice to get all the priest spells in the priest supplement, y'know?

As I said, I could be wrong, I'm just thinking out loud.