Are there any? And if there are, what would be their motivation for materializing and/or aid humans? Would they have any interest in opposing daemons or evil spirits?
Can it be that the SoB aren't really channeling the powers of the good ol' Emprah, but rather asking for help from such benevolent beings?
You can of course add such creatures if it works with the story you're telling but I for one would say that there are no such thing as benevolent warp beings, and I'm pretty sure that the canon follow me on this. I base this mostly on that I think that it would cheapen the threat from the warp a little as well as feeling a bit non-Warhammer for me.
From all I know about the background I say "NO, and do not introduce any"
I probably won't introduce such beings. If I did, my players would get their hopes up and I'd like to avoid that ;-) I just wanted to know if forces of light existed in the warp at all but everything I've read implies it's all doom and gloom, so I guess I'll stick to that.
Do they have to be Benevolent to help humans? You could say some Daemons or Warp beings pose as an emperor and gets fueled by the Imperium.
If the sisters summon the daemon it will still get to kill alot, and will have strong influence i would imagine on the covenant of sisters.
vehzeel said:
There can be a difference, IMO, between "beings of the warp" and "beings inhabiting the warp". You might estimate that a being could learn to inhabit the warp and remain independent of the evil of the Ruinous Powers. I think it would have to be of the power level of the Emperor to do so over the long term, and that is a mighty story element, one an entire campaign could revolve around (a second Emperor-level power moving around).
Also, exactly what is benevolent, or not, may not always be clear. I would say that a daemonic being might act nice just to squirm its way into a position of confidence or power. It would still look like a daemon, though, and it's acts or grants would be followed by evidence of taint/corruption.
Bassemandrh said:
An emperor in general, or The Emperor of all mankind, ruler of the Imperium? Personally, I would not allow any daemon to masquerade as the Emperor. It would be far to obvious a route for any daemon to follow, and if it could be done at all, it would be done everywhere to undermine the authority Ecclesiarchy and the Senatorum Imperialis; and yet, that doesn't happen. IMO, the actual Emperor's power prohibits the Ruinous Powers and their minions from attempting to masquerade as himself. Also, I just tend to think that daemons, being essential beings of Chaos (with a capital C) and corruption just cannot manage to pretend to be something of actual holy/divine power. Nice as humans understand it, maybe, for a little while... but tainted and corrupt, bound to explode in violence and insensibility... inevitably.
Daemons sometimes behave "benevolently" to primitive people who don't know what Chaos is, in order to attract more worshippers. In Creatures Anathema , for instance, it says that Flamers of Tzeentch are often mistaken for "nature spirits" on some primitive worlds.
But just doing Good for goodness' sake? No...
Beings in the Warp seem to be amost entirelymade up of the darkest parts of the human mind and soul. It might follow that the higher parts of a human soul (Honour etc) also have a reflection in the warp. Of course, as GM, this is up to you, but I wouldn't just say the warp is "te evils". and leave it at that. It is even possible that the Emprah himself is just a manifiestation of the human desire to follow a divine, infallible being.
In our game, the closer you get toTerra, the harder it is for Daemons and "regular" warp entities to access the materium. The astronomicon? Legions of Angels battling in the warp? It doesn't matter to the people being protected by it who fit it into their own supersitions and thus may, through the power of their faith, cause it to exist... Outside of this core however,benevolent warp beings are unknown. the thing about the warp is that no matter the intention of the user, it is a bit like crude oil, good fuel if used correctly but will kill you slowly (via carcinogens) or quickly (as a poison) if you spill it. BUT IT WILL KILL YOU...
alright, pherhaps comparing oil to warp stuff is a bit over the top but it serves as a decent example of how something can linger and cause negative effects longer after it is "gone".
There is always the Star Child.
Yeah, I went there!
Alpha Chaos 13 said:
There is always the Star Child.
Yeah, I went there!
Emperor deliver us...
Any gods of a species exist in the warp. Like Gork and Mork, or the eldar healing god. There's some good in there, if your species has a god they still worship
Alpha Chaos 13 said:
There is always the Star Child.
Yeah, I went there!
The star child is a really cool plot hook I think, I love the whole illuminati idea to. Back when Inquisitor was the only 40k rpg around that was the center of my campaign.
For those who don't know Illuminati were people who had been posessed by a deamon and forced it out of their body through their own sheer will. Eldar allowed these people to enter the Black Library.