Hi all,

I need a quick clarification on something with Silent Sisters. It says Silent Sisters gets +1 Str for each character in your dead pile.

Now does it mean distinct characters, or just the total number of cards in your dead pile. Example, I have 6 cards in my dead pile, but 3 are of the exact same card, would my Str bonus be 6 (total number of cards) or 4 (distinct characters) .

Great to hear your thoughts.

Cheers

Mooch

It says each character, not unique's only or any such stipulation so count away, outside of a very few select circumstances that i can think of unique characters are only going to get one copy in the dead pile anyway.

Underworld40k said:

Yeah I agree it would be unlikely that I would have multiple of Unique cards in the dead pile, but I could have mulitples of Non Uniuqe cards in there.

So just so I am understanding, using my above example you would say the + Str bonus would be 6? Even though I may have 3 identical Non-Unique characters in the dead pile?

there is no limit to the number of non unique's you can have in play afaik, aside the obvious only 3 of a card in a deck, each one acts as an individual entity in terms of effects and should count as such in the dead pile.

If you have all three of those non-unique cards in play, how many characters do you have in play? Three, right? Because each an attack, defend, kneel, trigger effects, etc. separately, right?

So even though you have 3 copies of the same character card in the dead pile, you have three individual characters in the dead pile. So you would get +3 STR, +1 for each card, not a total of +1 for each "character title" you have in the dead pile.

With card effects like Aegon's Hill, it is possible to put more than one unique card of the same name in ones dead pile. In instances like these, do they count as *one* character for silent sisters, or do they count for each copy in the dead pile?

Even if there are multiple copies of the same Unique character in the dead pile, I would say:

Get the first card in your dead pile. Is this a character card? Yes/no. If yes, +1.

Get the next card in your dead pile. Is this a character card? Yes/no. if yes, +1. and so on...

The rules on unique cards being the "same" character only apply when the card is in play. More to the point, they only apply when you try to put the second copy into play somehow. The individual cards themselves are considered different cards and different characters until something else (like the rules on unique cards) tells you differently.

Look at it this way: Suppose you have copy #1 of a unique character in your discard pile. I win a challenge with Harbor Thug, trigger the Response, and copy #2 of the unique character is discarded. Did you discard a character (allowing the Thug to get a power), or is it the same character as was already in your discard pile? Pretty clearly, you discarded a character, right?

Same thing applies here. If you have 2 copies of the same unique character card in your dead pile, it counts as 2 separate characters and you get +2 for Silent Sisters. This is because the rules for unique only treat unique cards with the same title as "the same" when you try to play them. (The rules don't even really do that; they just restrict what you can do with copies #2 and #3 of unique cards.) Even the deckbuilding rules (3 copies of a card as determined by title) do not treat the copies as the "same" card or character - otherwise, copies #2 and #3 would not count toward the 60 card minimum - potentially making an 89 card deck illegal.

Okay, thanks ktom!