3 questions to FFG and official responses

By guciomir, in The Lord of the Rings: The Card Game

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alpha5099 said:

Official word from Nate on the damage: it can be spread around.

The question I asked:

I'm curious as to how the Cave Troll's splash damage is supposed to work.

It seems like there are two possibilities. Let's say after blocking there are still 3 points of damage left to be assigned. Do I need to choose a character to take as much of that damage as they can before dying (with any extra continuing to a third character), or are those 3 points of damage to be distributed among my characters as I see fit?

The Cave Troll's text reads: "For each excess point of combat damage dealt by Cave-troll (damage that is dealt beyond the remaining hit points of the character damaged by its attack) you must damage another character you control."

The official response from someone else asking about the Cave Troll was: "The 'overflow' damage is assigned point by point. If it kills off a character, there is still o verflow from the attack that needs to be assigned."

Phrases like "for each point of damage" and "point by point" seem to me to suggest that it is the latter, that the damage is freely distributed.

Nate's response:

You can distribute the excess damage as you see fit. Each point (as per the language on the Troll) is resolved individually.

i almost choked....for once i was actually right

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I have mirrored this thread onto CardGameDB for better archiving. (and in an attempt to try and get some of the community to move to that far superior site)

Official Nate Rule Clarifications @ CardGameDB

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Nate's response:

You can distribute the excess damage as you see fit. Each point (as per the language on the Troll) is resolved individually.

So it mean Frodo can use his ability only for 1damage cose his ability limited: once per phase. So if you choose use Frodo ability you can put only 1 damage cose each damage assign separately. Wow!!!! Frodo is useless in this situation or i get it wrong???

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Glaurung said:

Nate's response:

You can distribute the excess damage as you see fit. Each point (as per the language on the Troll) is resolved individually.

So it mean Frodo can use his ability only for 1damage cose his ability limited: once per phase. So if you choose use Frodo ability you can put only 1 damage cose each damage assign separately. Wow!!!! Frodo is useless in this situation or i get it wrong???

well i see 'as you see fit' as it gives you the freedom to assign multiple points to various people. so frodo could take 3 and another could take 2 for instance

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You have to assign each point individually, so Frodo can not take three points at once. He can take one point, then another one point, and then a third point. But, as Glaurung points out, that stops his power, since you resolve each point individually (as per Nate's answer).

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Bohemond said:

You have to assign each point individually, so Frodo can not take three points at once. He can take one point, then another one point, and then a third point. But, as Glaurung points out, that stops his power, since you resolve each point individually (as per Nate's answer).

ah yes, didnt really see that till now

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Glaurung said:

Nate's response:

You can distribute the excess damage as you see fit. Each point (as per the language on the Troll) is resolved individually.

So it mean Frodo can use his ability only for 1damage cose his ability limited: once per phase. So if you choose use Frodo ability you can put only 1 damage cose each damage assign separately. Wow!!!! Frodo is useless in this situation or i get it wrong???

yea this is how I read it as well..

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booored said:

Glaurung said:

Nate's response:

You can distribute the excess damage as you see fit. Each point (as per the language on the Troll) is resolved individually.

So it mean Frodo can use his ability only for 1damage cose his ability limited: once per phase. So if you choose use Frodo ability you can put only 1 damage cose each damage assign separately. Wow!!!! Frodo is useless in this situation or i get it wrong???

yea this is how I read it as well..

This is correct. If you assign excess damage to Frodo, you do so one point at a time. His ability will only be able to cancel one point of damage in this scenario.

If, however, you defend against the troll with Frodo, he can cancel all damage he would receive from the troll's attack (4, barring other card effects).

So, Frodo is not very useful to soak up overkill damage, but he is exceptional as the actual defender.

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Yeah.. obvious.. but probably needed to be said :)

I wonder if this will finally be able to convince people that Frodo is one of the best Plate and Warning targets in the game?

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Question
There is a number of effects that say "Search the Encounter Deck and the Discard Pile for x" Dose this command imply a order.. as in search the encounter deck 1st, then the discard pile or dose it mean you can simply choose witch one you want to search in? If so why dose it not say "or" instead of "and".

Also, as it says "and" dose this mean that you gave to search in both. So the encounter deck gets shuffled no matter what? Like is the command saying "reveal the encounter deck, and look in the discard pile at the same time, and choose card X, then shuffle the encounter deck"

Answer

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Thanks for posting that - that's helpful. :)

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Interesting...very interesting. That probably means a lot of us have been doing this wrong...again!!! I'll have my Ph.D. soon!