Can Meera go back to Shadows during being Moribund by Valar or Threat from the North?

To activate her Response that does not change the Moribund state as I see. She will still leave play. The only question is: where to?

Also if she would be sent back to hand (by any means), is it also possible to go to Shadows instead?

I assume if Meera can go to Shadows in the above situations, then the first player will decide where to go from Moribund state (if there are more than one possibility).

The rules say:

Simultaneous but Conflicting Entry
into the Moribund State
If a character is killed, discarded, and/or
returned to a player's hand or deck at exactly
the same time, the first player decides which
of the destinations applies for the card's
Moribund state. (See "What is Moribund?" in
section III (page 15) for more information on
"Moribund.")

Leaving Play
A card "leaves play" when it moves from an
in play state to an out of play state. Out of
play states are the dead pile, the discard pile, a
player’s hand, and a player’s deck.

What is "Moribund"?
After a card is forced to leave play (by being
killed, discarded, returned to its owner's hand
or deck, or moved to its owner's shadows
area) that card is considered Moribund for the
duration of the action window.

Rules Exception
Although considered in play, a Moribund card
cannot be removed from play (or targeted to
be removed from play) again by any effect or
any attempt to pay a cost for the remainder of
the action window. However, the "state" of a
Moribund card can be changed by an effect
that does not actually attempt to remove it from play a second time.

A Moribund card cannot be removed from play a second time. When Meera is in a Moribund state due to Valar/TftN, you can't trigger her response. She's gone, man. Meera's gone.

Ratatoskr said:

I'll put this one in the 'I've been playing that wrong for a few months' column. I suppose then the only reason that Arya can jump back into shadows is because hers is a replacement effect that sends her to shadows instead of moribund:dead?

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dh098017 said:

dh098017 said:

That's right. Technically, her effect sends her to moribund:shadows instead of moribund:dead.

Here's another card interaction governed by the same principles that may not be obvious to everyone:

I play Valar. You play Search and Detain. You win INI. You make the mistake of making me First Player. Now I decide that your effect comes first. You send one of my characters back to hand. Then Valar resolves. Now get this: My character is now Moribund:Hand, so he is not killed by Valar. If my opponent had made himself First Player, he could have rescued one of his own characters from Valar. Conversely, if Valar resolves first, the take to hand effect from S&D doesn't happen, because all eligible characters are now Moribund:Dead (assuming, of course, that no characters have been saved). Bottom line: S&D is a great anti-Valar plot.

Thanks for the answers.