If like me you have struggled to play triggered effects at the correct time in the sequence of play, I have compiled a list of these effects I found in the cards in the Core and expansion sets and placed them relatively to sequence chart extracts according to the rules, FAQ and latest clarifications from Nate. I also give an example of a card for each one of these. I only omitted the "during X phase" triggers as they are ususally condition specific (in addition to time specific) and tricky to place in the chart.

I hope this may be useful. Also, please let me know if I missed some or if I made some errors.

Forced: Before X is dealt damage
Forced: After the players quest successfully
Forced: After the players have quested unsuccessfully
Forced: After resolving a quest to which X was committed
Forced: After this stage is defeated
Forced: At the end of the quest phase

Phase 3 : Quest
…
Step 2: Staging
Forced: Before X is dealt damage [Patrol Leader KD] (e.g. Thalin's effect)
Step 3 : Quest Resolution
Willpower > Threat
Forced: After the players quest successfully [The Hunt Begins THFG]
or Willpower < Threat
Forced: After the players have quested unsuccessfully [Dungeon Jailor]
If Location/Quest complete, advance Location/Quest
Forced: After resolving a quest to which X was committed [Escort from Edoras AJtR]
Forced: After this stage is defeated [The Capture TDM]
Player Actions
Forced: At the end of the quest phase [Gollum TDM]

Forced: At the beginning of the encounter phase

Phase 5 : Encounter
Forced: At the beginning of the encounter phase [Attercop, Attercop RtM]
Step 1 : Player Engagement
…

Forced: When X attacks
Forced: When X attacks, deal Y to defender
Forced: At the beginning of the combat phase
Forced: After a shadow effect dealt to X resolves
Forced: After X/it attacks
Forced: After an attack in which X defends resolves
Shadow: After this/its attack resolves
Forced: When X is attacked
Forced: Before X is dealt damage
Forced: After an attack in which X attacked resolves
Response: After attached hero attacks and destroys an enemy
Forced : at the end of the combat phase
Shadow : after combat

Phase 6 : Combat
Forced: At the beginning of the combat phase [Ambush RtM]
Deal Shadow Cards
Player Actions
Enemy Attacks
Step 1: Choose an Engaged Enemy
Forced: When X attacks [Dol Guldur Beastmaster]
Step 2: Declare Defender
Forced: When X attacks, deal Y to defender [snow Warg TRG]
Step 3 : Resolve Shadow Effects
Forced: After a shadow effect dealt to X resolves [Nazgul of Dol Guldur]
Player Actions
Step 4 : Determine Combat Damage (combat is resolved)
Forced: After X/it attacks [The Witch-king TmaO / Wargs]
Forced: After an attack in which X defends resolves [Winged Guardian THfG]
Shadow: After this/its attack resolves [Rauros Fall THoEM]
Player Actions
Player Attacks
Step 1 : Declare target and attackers
Forced: When X is attacked [Grasping/Trashing Tentacle TWitW]
Step 2 : Determine attack strength
Step 3 : Determine Combat Damage (combat is resolved)
Forced: Before X is dealt damage [Patrol Leader KD]
Forced: After an attack in which X attacked resolves [Vassal of the Windlord TDM]
Response: After attached hero attacks and destroys an enemy [blade of Gondolin]
Player Actions
Discard remaining Shadow Cards
Forced : at the end of the combat phase [Goblin Sniper]
Shadow : after combat [Wolf Rider]

Forced: during the refresh phase
At the end of the round

Phase 7 : Refresh
…
Step 2 : Raise Threat by 1
Forced: during the refresh phase [Gladden Fields]
…
Player Actions
At the end of the round [Gandalf]

I think this is accurate, and very easy to read. Nice work.

yeah, great stuff zeb

Dear FFG,

Please sticky this thread.

Thanks,

juicebox

PS: Thanks to you zeb. Very helpful resource!

juicebox said:

yes stickying this would be good ..........but is this forum even moderated?

Thanks, everybody for your feedback.

Very nice!

Only one thing:

zeb said:

I think that there should be Willpower < Threat, without "=".

LEGA said:

I am not sure. I think that you are considered having quested successfully only if Willpower is strictly higher than Threat. Otherwise it is not successful. I'll check, but I think it is in the FAQ.

Unrelated: I am also planning to add some during and defeated conditions too.

I'm not sure too but:

1. FAQ: As soon as the players determine that the total committed Willpower is greater than the total Threat in the staging area, they are considered to have quested successfully.

2. Rules: If the Willpower is higher, the players have successfully quested, and they make progress on the quest.

If the Threat power is higher, the players have unsuccessfully quested, and they are driven back by the encounter deck.

So in case of tie quest is neither successful nor unsuccessful.

Or you mean that they include it in FAQ to determine the tie case to be unsuccessful?

LEGA said:

Well, I am not sure anymore. Indeed I thought that the FAQ defined the successful case and that all other cases meant unsuccessful, including when Willpower and Threat are equal. Does that mean that if they are equal, then one does not apply either succesful and unsuccessful triggers?

zeb said:

That was my understanding, yes.

radiskull said:

Alright, I need to correct the chart then. I'll do it with the next additions.

zeb said:

this is news to me too, is this the actual ruling then, so if a card states if players quest unsuccessfully do such and such, and you end up being equal that card effect doesnt happen?

richsabre said:

On P14 of the rules it says "If the combined committed willpower score is equal to the combined threat score in the staging area: no progress tokens are placed. and the players do not increase their threat dials"

So Becuase the players have neither quested successfully nor unsuccessfully, any effects triggered by questing successfully or unsuccessfully would not occur. You could see it as the party is stuck, they haven't made progress but they haven't lost ground either.

I'm curious as to how you've been playing in this situation?

silverhand77 said:

ive been playing it as equal threat=unsucessfull questing, but i do see the above points as more valid

radiskull said:

radiskull said:

This is how I have been playing as well. You are neither were successful nor unsuccessful.

zeb - thanks again for creating this thread. I think it's a great resource.

That said, I don't know if you want to expand it or not, but I was thinking that adding "adventure specific" sections could be quite helpful.

For example, Hunt for Gollum and Dead Marshes (others too, but those two especially come to mind) have some unique aspects added to the questing phase and/or the escape check mechanic. It seems like there are frequent questions and common misunderstandings that pop up around those elements all the time.

Anyway, no pressure to add to what you've got, but it would compliment well what you already have going here.

ziryab1 said:

juicebox said:

Many thanks, that is a good idea indeed. I do not have a lot of time now, but will try to continue this chart as much as possible.

Great list, thx for compiling it, zeb!

Note to oneself: add "After X leaves play" effects, and "Response: After X..." (such as the Dwarrowdelf Axe) that must follow Forced effects, thus increasing the granularity of this turn sequence sheet.

I am now wondering if I should actually do a complete turn sequence sheet, but there are excellent ones around.

Sorry for not maintaining this document too often, I miss some time. Anyway, I add "When X attacks", should solve step 1 of Enemy attacks.

Example:

Dol Guldur Beastmster CORE 91
Should read: "Forced: When Dol Guldur Beastmaster
attacks…"
The additional shadow card is dealt when the Dol
Guldur Beastmaster is chosen during step 1 of enemy
attack resolution.

zeb said:

Oh, then there's another rules inconsistency. A Snow Warg (Redhorn Gate) also has such an effect. ("When Snow Warg attacks, deal1 damage to the defending character, if able.") Since the defender gets declared in step 2 of enemies' attacks, there is no defender at this point, and it will never be possible to deal that damage…

HilariousPete said:

Well spotted. I guess that in that case, the "When X attacks" trigger should apply depending on the context.

"The additional shadow card is dealt when the Dol Guldur Beastmaster is chosen during step 1 of enemy attack resolution"

English is not my native language, so am I misinterpreting? What does "dealt" mean here? Put the card face down and resolve it immediately at the end of step 1, or put the shadow card face down during step 1 and resolve it during step 3?

Obviously for the Snow Warg, the When X attacks effect should be effective after the defender is selected, so at the end of step 2.

thanks for collecting all these together, its pretty handy. i've put them together with the other rules, and combined them into one sheet, if anyone is interested - www.boardgamegeek.com/image/1327354/the-lord-of-the-rings-the-card-game