High Plasma Beam

By tuggs, in UFS Rules Q & A

High Plasma Beam states:

E Commit 1 foundation: This attack gets +X damage. X equals the number of committed cards in your staging area plus your opponent's character's hand size minus your character's hand size (minimum 0).

This might be an odd question, but does the (minimum 0) refer to *just* the difference in hand size, or the entire second sentence?

I was playing a Sogetsu deck a few days ago, and this came up, because my opponent was running Hugo.

Thanks in advance.

-Tuggs

The minimum 0 refers to the whole effect.

The minimum 0 refers just to your opponents handsize, that is, if their hand size is negative, it won't add to the damage of HPB.

Also, I'm lying. Why? To point out yet again that the shortened version of (minimum 0) is far far far too often ambiguous.

It's referring to the amount of the damage pump (X). If it would come back as a negative value, it's just 0.

So for example if you commit a card to pay for its cost, having exactly 1 committed foundation in your staging area, and your opponent is running 4HS hugo versus your 7HS Twelve, it would be 5 - 7 = (-2) for X, so that would be 0.

Tagrineth said:

It's referring to the amount of the damage pump (X). If it would come back as a negative value, it's just 0.

So for example if you commit a card to pay for its cost, having exactly 1 committed foundation in your staging area, and your opponent is running 4HS hugo versus your 7HS Twelve, it would be 5 - 7 = (-2) for X, so that would be 0.

That's strange. So, the negative from the 5 - 7 = -2 cancels out the +1 damage you'd have from having one committed foundation?

Gummy Bear said:

Tagrineth said:

It's referring to the amount of the damage pump (X). If it would come back as a negative value, it's just 0.

So for example if you commit a card to pay for its cost, having exactly 1 committed foundation in your staging area, and your opponent is running 4HS hugo versus your 7HS Twelve, it would be 5 - 7 = (-2) for X, so that would be 0.

That's strange. So, the negative from the 5 - 7 = -2 cancels out the +1 damage you'd have from having one committed foundation?

High Plasma Beam says

"This attack gets +X damage. X equals the number of committed cards in your staging area plus your opponent's character's hand size minus your hand size (minimum 0)."

It's not just +1 for every committed card in your staging area. Read the card.

The text is even quoted in the OP. If you aren't even going to pay attention to card text at all, please refrain from posting on Q&A.

Tagrineth said:

Gummy Bear said:

Tagrineth said:

It's referring to the amount of the damage pump (X). If it would come back as a negative value, it's just 0.

So for example if you commit a card to pay for its cost, having exactly 1 committed foundation in your staging area, and your opponent is running 4HS hugo versus your 7HS Twelve, it would be 5 - 7 = (-2) for X, so that would be 0.

That's strange. So, the negative from the 5 - 7 = -2 cancels out the +1 damage you'd have from having one committed foundation?

High Plasma Beam says

"This attack gets +X damage. X equals the number of committed cards in your staging area plus your opponent's character's hand size minus your hand size (minimum 0)."

It's not just +1 for every committed card in your staging area. Read the card.

The text is even quoted in the OP. If you aren't even going to pay attention to card text at all, please refrain from posting on Q&A.

Uh... excuse you? I have the card, and I've read over it many times. The example you gave of how the card worked was, sub-par, in my opinion. That's why I asked what I did. You made it sound like the card did something other than what the text actually says it does.

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too short...cant just say edited!!!

Gummy Bear said:

Uh... excuse you? I have the card, and I've read over it many times. The example you gave of how the card worked was, sub-par, in my opinion. That's why I asked what I did. You made it sound like the card did something other than what the text actually says it does.

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What you just said:

"That's strange. So, the negative from the 5 - 7 = -2 cancels out the +1 damage you'd have from having one committed foundation?"

Mind clarifying what you mean by "cancels out the +1 damage you'd have from having one committed foundation"?

"Committed cards" PLUS "Opponent's hand size" MINUS "Your hand size"

"1" PLUS "4" MINUS "7"

1 + 4 - 7 = -2, the minimum is 0, so 0.

There's no +1 that's being cancelled out. That doesn't make any sense at all.

Again, please refrain from posting on Q&A if you don't quite understand how the cards work. This is seriously confusing the topic that was clear cut and finished until you posted.

Tagrineth said:

Gummy Bear said:

Uh... excuse you? I have the card, and I've read over it many times. The example you gave of how the card worked was, sub-par, in my opinion. That's why I asked what I did. You made it sound like the card did something other than what the text actually says it does.

(quote tunnel removed)

What you just said:

"That's strange. So, the negative from the 5 - 7 = -2 cancels out the +1 damage you'd have from having one committed foundation?"

Mind clarifying what you mean by "cancels out the +1 damage you'd have from having one committed foundation"?

"Committed cards" PLUS "Opponent's hand size" MINUS "Your hand size"

"1" PLUS "4" MINUS "7"

1 + 4 - 7 = -2, the minimum is 0, so 0.

There's no +1 that's being cancelled out. That doesn't make any sense at all.

Again, please refrain from posting on Q&A if you don't quite understand how the cards work. This is seriously confusing the topic that was clear cut and finished until you posted.

It appears I simply missread something you posted earlier, so my apologies on that account. However, I would appreciate if you would change your attitude the next time you answer one of my questions, instead of making a careless statement like "Please refrain from posting on Q&A if you don't quite understand how the cards work." The reason people post in Q&A to begin with, is because they "don't quite understand how the cards work", so by telling someone to "refrain from posting in Q&A because they dont' quite understand how the cards work" is not only rude, but extremely unhelpful. Not to mention, by saying that, you're kind of defeating the purpose in Q&A.

What Tag means is don't answer questions if you don't understand the cards, not don't ask questions.

aslum said:

What Tag means is don't answer questions if you don't understand the cards, not don't ask questions.

...right, what he said. ^^;

aslum said:

What Tag means is don't answer questions if you don't understand the cards, not don't ask questions.

Gotcha then. Simple Missunderstandings.