If the sentence " Players tally each round for their score at the end of the refresh phase." from the new scoring system means I can play a sneak attack Gandalf to kill the last troll before the round ends.........then I am down to a score of 65.

Tried this with a spirit/lore deck... think this was close to the same deck I tried with it back when the Carrock first came out.

Team: Dunhere, Eowyn, Beravor

Final Threat: 10

Wounds: 1

VP: 0

Rounds: 8

Total: 91 points

Lots of Galadhrim's Greetings and Galdalfs for threat reduction. Two Unexpected Courages and three Dunedain Marks on Dunhere who along with some help from a couple of Westfold Horse Breakers slaughtered the trolls in the staging area. Song of Kings on Beravor for some Sneak Attack and Steward action.

Will try again.

Wraith428

wraith428 said:

That's actually a pretty interesting deck, I assume you put 2 Unexpecteds on Dunhere? Took you 5 turns to kill the trolls? Only thing is you absolutely need 3 marks and 2-3 Courages or else it'll take forever. Interesting but seems like it'd be near impossible to crack 80 even if you get the perfect draws. Blade Mastery would save you at least 1 turn if you could get them played.

Muem, where did you see the new scoring system?

Da_Engineer said:

I think I did it in four rounds... explored Carrok after 1 turn of it being active with an array of 3 Rivendell Minstrels and Eowyn plus a hangs assortments Radagast's Cunnings and a secret path. Also Dunhere had some extra attacks (although never more that once on a single Troll) due to the Westfold Horse Breakers.

Tried again a couple more times and got a nearly similar result with an extra Gandalf in there for threat reduction.

Team: Dunhere, Eowyn, Beravor

Final Threat: 5

Wounds: 1

VP: 0

Rounds: 8

Total: 86 points

Got one more idea here to tweek the deck...

Wraith428

Think I'm done. Tweeked the deck I was playing. Added For Gondor to the mix which was a nice way to beef up Dunhere attack.

Team: Dunhere, Eowyn, Beravor

Final Threat: 23

Wounds: 0

VP: 0

Rounds: 6

Total: 83 points

Could have been 78 but my last turn of the encounter deck (with only 1 Troll remaining) turned up a Wolf Rider and a Muck Adder. Since in order to kill the last troll this turn I needed to engage, sac Gleowine and Sneak Attack Gandalf in to help with the attack I didn't have much to deal with two more monsters (in fact all I had was Beravor with an Unexpected Courage and she needed to attack to kill the troll.) So instead of using Gandalf to reduce the theat as planned I had to use him to deal 4 damage and kill the Muck Adder.

Some awesome stuff was the first turn I engaged the trolls. Dunhere with 3 Dunedain Marks, and 1 Unexpected Courage plus two For Gondors and a sac of a Westfold Horse Breaker = 3 Trolls with 5 damage even with the Carrock still active. Next turn with help of Gandalf and Radagast's Cunning explored the Carrock and For Gondored again along with the sac of another Westfold Horse Breaker for 3 dead Trolls.

I think I'm done with this one. Muemakan congrads on your score!

Wraith428

Had to fight hard to pull this one out!!! Threat 42; round points 90; no damage, no dead Heros; no victory points=132. 4 points better than my best score. (sorry Juicebox!!!). Heros: Eleanor; eowyn; Aragorn!

Zjb12 said:

muemakan said:

muemakan said:

Guess this is legal.

So score would be: 65

Heroes: Eowyn, Beravor, Thalin ( 3CS+2APs)

Threat: 5

Wounds: 0

Encounter cards:

1. Banks of the Anduin

2. Bee Pastures

3. Mist Mountain Goblings ( shadow card was Wolfrider) , sneak attack Gandalf Killed one and blocked the other

4. Wolfrider +River Langflood

5. Oak Wood Grove

6. River Langflood

7.Mist Mountain Goblins ( didn´t attack because I was already at 9 threat)

The trolls came in Round 5. I engaged Louis which brought me threat at 34. ( to make sure the trolls would attack me in turn 6 ) He was blocked by a Snowborn Scout and killed by sneak Gandalf+Beorn with For Gondor. Gandalf was used to damage one of the stage area trolls.

When it came to questing in round 6 there were only 2 trolls because Stuart was disposed off with Gandalf.

The remaining trolls did kill 2 Snowborn Scouts. And one was killed again with Gandalf and Beorn. The last one was left for round 7.

Again a Snowborn Scout was used to block and attacked with Gandalf. ( he did get the only bad shadow card........2 damage tokens were removed from him)

But as Gandalf did attack him, he got the two damage again. At the end of the combat Phase he was left with 4 wounds. So now I refreshed my heroes and added one threat......and sneaked a Gandalf to kill Morris.

Trollgrats muemakan!

Some questions though:

1) How was Gandalf able to dispose Stuart in round 6? The troll could have had only 8 HP damage, if you used Gandalf's ability twice.

2) I guess Thalin got a Song of Kings?

3) How did you get your threat such low? From 34 in the 6th round to 5 in the 7th round seems impossible to me.

4) How many Snowbourn Scouts did you have? I counted 4, but shouldn't there be only 3?

5) To which locations did you travel?

6) I guess you had Protector of Lórien?

7) With Beorn you mean Beorn, not Grimbeorn, right?

8) How could Gandalf and Beorn kill Louis in round 5? Even with "For Gondor"! they only had 9 attack points.

I think sneaking Gandalf during the refresh phaseshould be legal, but IMO they shouldn't have made it possible to take actions after the combat phase ends. Was kind of shocked to see that there is indeed a window for player actions at the end of the refresh phase. So, as the refresh phase hasn't been over when Gandalf killed Morris, you didn't have to add the 10 extra points.

Ugh

this one was brutal- going up against 4 angry trolls by yourself seems like a bad plan to me.

Denethor, Beravor, Aragorn - had a couple of Spirit cards in there for anti-shadow/anti-treachery too, but never got Celebrian's stone to play it.

slow in the first part - got steward first round (after several failed attempts where i died slowly with lack of resources) and built up the allies. tried to avoid questing with Beravor for card-draw.

Engaged the trolls in about round 5 or 6. Had 2 Gandalves and a couple of sneak attacks by this point. Still took a long time to whittle away the Trolls - went in order of threat, defence, attack, re-shuffle (can never remember their names) lost lots of allies to chump blocking, but Denethor had Dunedain Warning, Burning Brand, Self-preservation and protector of Lorien, so he was fine to defend 1 per round.

Never saw Grimbeorn - had bee pastures twice as shadows grr.

final score - 46 threat - 9 rounds completed, no damage

136

leptokurt said:

1. He was already damaged to 4 hit points.......shadowcard reduced 2wounds .....so 6 hit points. Gandalf attacked and dealt 2 damage.....4 again. Gandalf killed it.

2. Everybody had a song of kings.

3. 2 GG and 4 times Gandalf.

4. 3 to start with. played them again with ......Stand and Fight.

5. bee pastures and both River Langflood....others were scouted or discarded due to Carrock becoming the active location.

6. Protector on Thalin

7. right

8.Beorns special ability boosts him to 8+4 from Gandalf and 2 from For Gondor.

Yeah that´s what I thought. Otherwise they could have just said to tally the rounds when you increase your threat in the refresh phase.

muemakan said:

How many times did Gandalf deal damage to the Trolls? I saw two mentions I think, so you called Gandy a total of at least 6 times during the game?

muemakan said:

How were you getting to 2B with an active location for Carrock to bump off?

Dam said:

Carrock comes into play as the active location at the time you put the 7 marker on 1B, replacing the current location.

But to get the 7 marker on the quest I did already explore the active location. ( so as it turns out the sentence about a location being discardet due to car rock was falls, sorry)

2 trolls were killed by Gandalf/Beorn combo, one was killed in the staging area ( 3 times Gandalf) and the last one was killed by Gandalf ( 2 damage through attacking and 3 times sneaking.

I would have to look it up again but I think Gandalf came around 11 or 12 times.

muemakan said:

How on earth is that even possible????

plueschi said:

You can sneak him 5 times in one turn if you get the card draw possibilities and can reshuffle you deck.

juicebox said:

Hee! Hee! Maybe that second core set I ponied up for finally on Thursday helped!!! (though I only changed 8 cards in my deck after doing so!)

muemakan said:

So you drew your whole deck and then some in 7 turns without Spirit as a starting resource?

As a tangential question to various comments, I have been wondering, what size decks is everybody using? The standard minimum of 50 or are people using even bigger decks? I assume we are all using at least 50 card decks. I only ever use the minimum but do other people use bigger decks?

Not part of the tourney scene, but my four decks have 55 cards each, mostly because I don't have the heart to cull some cards that may or may not get used every game.

Ok, here is my contribution:

Score: 108

Heroes: Eowyn, Bilbo, Theodred

Final Threat: 31

Rounds 9 (80 points)

1 Gladden Fields (-3)

I almost always use a deck with exactly 50 cards. Usually not even 51 will do it for, but maybe thats just me.

Apparently I do something wrong when mixing my cards, because I almost never get all the cards that I need.

Muemakan, I still don't see how your game could have happened like you described it. You used 2x GG, 1x Stand and Fight and 1x (at least) Will of the West. That's 8 spirit resources, but you only got 7. And sorry, the probability of sneaking Gandalf three times in one round and then drawing two more Sneak Attacks with Beravor's action is almost nil.

And Beorn appearing twice? Has this been another Sneak Attack? Or two? Or did Thalin have the Steward and payed 12 resources to get him into play?

It's also hard to believe that you managed to travel to all that locations and had enough cards to discard for Protector of Lórien. I counted roundabout 22 cards that you claimed to have played, and you only had 27 at most

I really hope this is a joke, because frankly said, I don't consider this to be even halfway serious.

Dam said:

I think it's an error to have 55, you should always have 50 imo, I don't see any situation where 55 would be necessary because not every card is as good as the next and you're making it harder to get your best cards by having 55. Just a suggestion.

Zjb12 said:

Two can play at that Zjb12. Christmas was good to me, and I too am now the proud owner of a second Core Set.

And, I just played the following...

Heroes: Aragorn, Beravor, Bilbo

Final Threat: 31

Hero Wounds: 1

Victory Points: 3 (-3)

Round Marker: 10 (100)

Final Score: 129

Okay, tried again. I am really liking the way this deck is treating me:

Heroes: Aragorn, Beravor, Bilbo

Final Threat: 18

Hero Wounds: 1

Victory Points: 9 (-9)

Round Marker: 10 (100)

Final Score: 110

Sneaking Gandalf multiple turns really is pretty sweet.

Juicebox, you little stinker!!! I just saw this!!! Aaaggghhhh!!!! One of my hobbits and I just played mirkwood---ouch! That's a tough one!