Hi all,

This may sound a little odd at first, but I have a question I was hoping to have answered...

Widow's Watch is worded -

Response: After you play a unique card from your hand, kneel Widow's Watch or kneel a learned character to search your deck for a copy of that card, reveal it, and add it back to your hand. Then, shuffle your deck.

If it was worded as -

Marshalling: After you play a unique card from your hand, kneel Widow's Watch or kneel a learned character to search your deck for a copy of that card, reveal it, and add it back to your hand. Then, shuffle your deck.

... would it still work?

And If not, why not?

Just pure theory on some of the game mechanics and how they work, just need to get my head around something... help appreciated :-)

It wouldn't really, just because the "After you do X" means that you have to use the effect in response to something. A Marshalling: action has to be played when there are no other actions pending.

Does that make sense?

radiskull said:

This.

If it said Marshalling rather than Response, there would never be a point in the Framework where it would be legal to use it. Yes, logically speaking in common english, at the start of the next Player Action opportunity it is technically still "After you played X from your hand....", however in game logic, things must happen at a specific time, and for this example, it is in Step 5 (Response) of the Action Window in which the card was played in the first place. The Framework doesn't have a memory of anything further back than the start of the current action window (at least in regards to responses ).

More to the point, the "that card" part of what you search for is defined by the action of playing a unique card, so if you just changed the "Response" to "Marshaling," it wouldn't work because you wouldn't know what to search for. Say you had played 3 unique cards before triggering the location - which one would you be allowed to get a copy of?

It would be a Marshaling effect, but it would take more rewording. Along the lines of:

"Marshaling: Kneel Widow's Watch or a Learned character to search your deck for a copy of a unique character you played this phase. Then put it into your hand."

ktom gets to the heart of the matter. The response trigger shows where the ability triggers and the wording is phrased in such a way that it does not identify the card to be searched for outside of that response. You could make an argument that you could trigger it as the next player action after you marshalled the character but the phrasing is still not really supportive of it by strict interpretation.