Well our group is about to receive a Noble Born woman from the planet Gunpoint.

Does she get Both Noble Born and Hive World from planet, or just Noble Born.

And does anyone know anything, or direct me to info on GunPoint?

Just noble born. They are both backgrounds with different restrictions on what you can play.

"Home World" isn't really what it is, despite its name. It's background. You can be from a hive world and have a Noble Background; Mind Cleansed and Schola Progenium and Monastic Upbringing aren't actually "worlds" at all.

That what I thought, but I want to ask as we not yet had Noble Born before.

Can Noble borns become psykers?

If you roll class, you can but there is no mention of it in the box where the other noble born professions are discussed.

vehzeel said:

I would say "no," in keeping with the idea that a psyker no longer has access to wealth or his family connections, but is basically a slave.. Or at least take out the Wealth and Vendetta traits, maybe Supremely Connected as well.

That's what I thought. Thanks!

vehzeel said:

Inquisitor's handbook page 16 in the black "Sidebar" above all the benifits you get for being Noble Born lists all the classes you can be with a samll detail about why they take up such careers. Why it's apart the random table after all the new background things I have no idea. I'm thinking typo. since it says in the black box that these are the careers they can take.

How does it work for a noble born scum though - do they count as noble, or do they roll on the scum table?

The_Shaman said:

They keep the nobles Wealth trait and do not roll on the table. The same goes for any other career the noble can take.

Arag said:

Important: Unless, I think, it is trumped by a background, such as Missionary or Redemptionist.

bogi_khaosa said:

Not the Background Packages but the Alternate Ranks in Blood of Martyrs. A character with the Redemptionist Firebrand background package from Inquisitor's Handbook doesn't lose the Wealth trait. It can also be argued that the Confessor and the Redemptionist do not trump over a Home World trait. After all being a Noble is not something one can shed away, and wealth is just a part of it. This begs the question about the hierarchy of character backgrounds.

The rules as written are very unclear about this.

Ok, I expect that the missionary would lose it, since they choose to live as a mendicant, but I wanted to get some more opinion on the noble scum. I don't have any in my games yet, but I imagine it may pop up sooner or later.

Arag said:

I would say otherwise; a Mendicantine Missionary or Redemptionist has presumably taken something like a vow of poverty. You've given up your wealth.

Scum would still have it.

Whilst the book doesn't include Psykers in its list of potential Noble classes, I don't see why a GM wouldn't allow it (with a well thought-out background).

You get -5 to your Willpower, which is painful as a psyker, so the player probably has good reason to choose it in the first place. Also, I wouldn't take away the income as it's about the only edge Nobility grants you. The rest is weak in comparison to many other 'Homeworlds' (if you are purely going by skills, talents and stat advantages).

As with everything in the system, the boxes describing which classes each origin can go into are merely advisory. The GM has carte blanche to do what they will to alter the system to fit the needs of their campaign and their players.

To that extent, i'd suggest that if Noble born want to be Sanctioned Psykers that they take an applicable Peer talent for their Noble background (such as Adeptus Astra Telepathica) to represent the noble's family having ties to such an organization and thus being able to transfer funding more easily to a psyker.

If the Noble wanted to be a Scum i would say that the income would be entirely situational - is the Noble taking the Scum class to represent a dashing rogue who doesn't play by the books? Or are they outcast from their family, relying more on the gravity of their noble lineage than any actual claim?

I mean i played a Noble born Adept once. He was from a family with a long history of putting their male heirs through officer training with the local military. Outright refusing to stoop to his father's demands, my character stole a sizable portion of his families money (represented by increased starting amount) and fled to a secret college where he could better train in the more esoteric arts that interested him (I took the background package Heteria Lex secret society thing). From then on i only had the adepts income as i had to earn my way through hard work and not my family wealth.

Kasatka said:

Where did you stumble over this 1?

Angel of Death said:

Hetaireia Lexis can be found in the Inquisitor's Handbook.

Ironically there's a space on one of the chart's somewhere listing psyker on the noble born homeworld random career roller.

I also remember (though I can't remember from where) a passage talking about how Noble Psykers were usually the family member that noone talked about, and was kept locked in a tower somewhere because they're ******* crazy and dangerous.

Though we know that most noble families aren't powerful enough to keep their psychically blessed/cursed away from the Black Ships and Sanctioning, which is probably why we only have these leftover scraps to look at, since the galaxy is so vast, and so much time and resources are spent, as well as other groups getting their pick of the lot, that the house getting its scion back afterward are quite slim.