New to game just had a quick question. Does it kill characters that have a dupe on them or just kill the dupe and leave the main? Am I just misunderstanding the role of a dupe? My understanding is they die or are discarded to save the main and if they are in dead pile no new dupe can be played.
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Oneshot said:
New to game just had a quick question. Does it kill characters that have a dupe on them or just kill the dupe and leave the main? Am I just misunderstanding the role of a dupe? My understanding is they die or are discarded to save the main and if they are in dead pile no new dupe can be played.
What you missed is that you discard the dupe to save the main card from leaving play in any way (this includes being put into your hand or deck, as well as being killed or discarded). So your dupe always ends up in the discard pile and therefore doesn't prevent you from playing another dupe later.
Core Rules Page 19:
If one of your unique cards is about to be killed,
discarded from play, or returned to your hand
or deck, as a triggered “Response:” effect (see
later), you may discard an attached duplicate to
save the unique card from being killed, discarded, or returned to your hand or deck.
cool thanks just was a little unsure because it was a plot card and I didn't know if it changed anything. we played it as putting the dupe in the dead pile but now I know where it goes. thanks
If you think about the rules you'd have seen that putting the dupe in the dead pile would immediately put the game into an illegal state.If you did that you'd have a copy of the same card in play and in your dead pile, which is illegal.
Core Rules Page 19:
Unique Cards
Some cards have a banner icon (*) next to their
title. Such cards are unique. Each player may
only have one copy of a unique card in play.
Thus, you cannot put into play or take control of
a unique card which you already own or control
(except for duplicates, see below).
You also may not play or take control of a unique
card if there is a copy of that card in your dead
pile,
or if your opponent has taken control of
another copy of that unique card from you.
It's not illegal to put a copy of a unique card in a player's dead pile if that player controls a copy of that card, though, only the other way around (look at Aegon's Hill).
wWow... didn't expect such a flaming for a simple question. Just got the game and was unsure of the "attorney" style wording of the rule book and needed a short concise answer, which I at first received, not a "READ THE MANUAL STUPID" type response. If you don't like being helpful don't type anything. Thanks though Kudzlin for giving me an adult answer.
My apologies if you mistook me referring you to further reading, while simultaneously citing the source material of my answer to the question that you asked, as an insulting and childish answer.
In quoting the official FFG source material I was attempting to turn this thread into a place where future people who may have the same question as you did could find the answer directly from FFG. No insult was intended.
Khudzlin said:
The "rules of unique" - which prevent you from playing, putting into play, or taking control of a copy of a unique card with the same title as one already in your dead pile - only go one way here. If the copy you have in play got there first, and afterwards, another copy finds its way into your dead pile, it doesn't affect the copy in play at all. But if that copy leaves play, the copy in your dead pile will stop you from trying to play it again.
Luckily, it is pretty rare for a copy to go to the dead pile while another copy is in play.
dh098017 said:
My apologies if you mistook me referring you to further reading, while simultaneously citing the source material of my answer to the question that you asked, as an insulting and childish answer.
In quoting the official FFG source material I was attempting to turn this thread into a place where future people who may have the same question as you did could find the answer directly from FFG. No insult was intended.
Yeah but it's kind of funny how you did it in such an officious manner and got it wrong.
Circadia said:
dh098017 said:
My apologies if you mistook me referring you to further reading, while simultaneously citing the source material of my answer to the question that you asked, as an insulting and childish answer.
In quoting the official FFG source material I was attempting to turn this thread into a place where future people who may have the same question as you did could find the answer directly from FFG. No insult was intended.
Yeah but it's kind of funny how you did it in such an officious manner and got it wrong.
right rules, wrong interpretation, which is exactly why i always quote the source.