What's the Official Ruling on using multiple cards with "Limit Once Per Phase". For instance:

Qartheen Bazaar: After you play an attachment from your hand, draw a card. (Limit once per phase).

If I was to have three of these locations out, and played one attachment, would I draw three cards (one for each Qartheen Bazaar) or just one, due to "Limit Once Per Phase".

The former. "Limit once per x" only refers to the card on which the text is written, so each Bazaar could trigger. "Limited", on the other hand, is a global limitation applying to all of the player's cards, meaning they can only play one card with the "Limited" keyword per round regardless of what the cards are, and you can only trigger one "Limited response" per round regardless of whether or not they are on different cards.

Thank you sir.

This answerer is correct for cards triggered while they are in play. The limits on cards that are triggered from out-of-play (like event cards) apply to all cards with the same title controlled by that player.

Such events cards are worded differently again though: "limit 1 per phase" as opposed to "limit once per phase".

Circadia said:

ktom said:

The only one that I can see is Captain Groleo, but his ability seems fairly self-explanatory since it's a power-claiming response on a unique character, so you can only trigger the response to claim one power per phase.

ktom said:

Probably something the FAQ should cover then, given that it contravenes all other usage of the "limit once per x" phrasing.

Seems kind of contradictory to say "Groleo is self-explanatory because it is power claiming," but that "once per game" is not self-explanatory.

Ultimately, the "limit 1 per phase" and "limit once per phase" does not actually seem to be an intentionally defining distinction. It certainly wasn't in CCG days, when "limit 1 per phase" was on far more characters.

Thanks for all the feedback fellas. I think I understand.

ktom said:

Not at all. No one is asking for clarification on how Groleo works, but there is at least some confusion in the other thread about how Den of the Wolf should work. Proof is in the pudding.

Regarding this ruling on Den, does it follow the usual "once per x" rules in that it only limits the player who controls the card, or is ownership the deciding factor? For example, if I were to steal my opponent's Den of the Wolf after I had triggered my Den of the Wolf in a previous round, could I trigger this new Den of the Wolf?

The confusion in the other thread was on whether the "if you win Dominance" effect could be applied in both Dominance phases, not on how many times Den could be triggered. The comment that "once per game" applied to all copies of the location an player controlled was an answer given to a question that was not asked. No one ever actually asked "can I use Den of the Wolf twice because the limit is technically on the individual copy of the card?" (And the answer had nothing to do with the difference between "limit 1" and "limit once," too.)

Limits are not placed on cards so much as they are placed on the players who trigger them. And when you take control of a card in a game, it is considered "your" card, at least until it leaves play. So taking control of Den from an opponent is no different than playing a second copy of it yourself.

ktom said:

Yes, that was the question the OP was asking, but Khudzlin's response was:

Khudzlin said:

And he is right of course, except that Den of the Wolf is a special case which is not self-explanatory. If it were self-explanatory, I wouldn't have made the (otherwise correct) assumption that "limit once per x" applies to only that singular copy of Den of the Wolf. For you to assume that it is self-explanatory (which you yourself contradict because you made the point that there had to be a "direct ruling" that confirmed "limit once per game" applies to all copies) is, essentially, to assume I'm wilfully misreading the card (which I'm not because I don't have a stake in its ruling) or else stupid. Which is it?

My point about there being a difference between the text "limit 1 per phase" and "limit once per phase" was simply to point out that there's an explicit attempt made by the designers to draw a distinction between the way limits apply to event cards being played from hand and the way limits apply to cards in play. The former has "limit 1 per phase" to indicate that even if you have several copies, only one of them can be played; the latter has "limit once per phase" to indicate that the ability on this copy of the card can be triggered once phase. It's not perfect, but it'll do. Captain Groleo, as the odd character out in this system, is probably just a mistake that may get errata'd, but since Groleo is a unique card the mistake introduces no ambiguity (you can only ever have one copy of him in play, so his response will only ever trigger once per phase). Den of the Wolf, on the other hand, introduces a lot of ambiguity because all other cards that have "limit once per challenge", "limit once per phase", "limit once per round" etc. follow the same schema as outlined above.

ktom said:

Fair enough, but the question had to be asked, since Den already broke one convention when it comes to limits, it might well break others.