Squats

By Alpha Chaos 13, in Rogue Trader

Just because I'm a troublemaker!!! gran_risa.gif

I noticed something interesting the other day. In the early Dark Heresy fluff, the inhabitants of the Lathe worlds as being 'short and muscular'... Later fluff mentions them being 'tall and ogryn like'. I wonder if GW pulled them up for having tech dwarfs...

I don't give a diddly-squat

You're all short and to the point, aren't you?

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- V.

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That was short notice.

Aww, come on. You all hitting below the belt here.

RobOut said:

I noticed something interesting the other day. In the early Dark Heresy fluff, the inhabitants of the Lathe worlds as being 'short and muscular'... Later fluff mentions them being 'tall and ogryn like'. I wonder if GW pulled them up for having tech dwarfs...

P'raps the tall ones are from Hadd and the short ones are from Het?

A webcomic I found online you Squat fans might enjoy. Beardy Bastards

Whenever a topic comes up about these guys, I have one phrase run through my head... *nom*nom*nom* demonio.gif

Hygric said:

Whenever a topic comes up about these guys, I have one phrase run through my head... *nom*nom*nom* demonio.gif

Yeah, I always thought 'the tyranids ate them' was a terrible, canon warping thing, since that would mean that the tyranids would have to have eaten the Armageddon sector, which was actually brought up in the novel Gunheads with them having to visit what used to be a squat world and finding 'strange xenos carvings of stunted humanoids'.

The Highlock Freemen in Achilus Assault from Deathwatch pretty much fit the squat bill. That said, the jokes on this thread so far pretty much sum up why GW banished them to the role of 'nid fodder... they just weren't taken seriously enough to be part of the grim dark future that GW was spinning as the 40k universe.

I rather like the idea of the squats as abhumans though. It creates the possiblity of another branch of humanity apart from the Imperium and Chaos. But, if they got spun as an alien species eventually, that would be fine in my book too.

Cause space dwarves are too silly, but robot egyptians arent? o.O

Personally I'd like to see them come back in some form as either a separate "empire", not enough to warrant an army book on its own really. Either as a unit selection for IG, or even Tau.

I could see the squats thumbing their nose at the Imperium for not helping them out against the nids.

According to the fluff before they got axed, the squat holds were independent of the Imperium but allied, alot like the Ad Mech is, only with a little more separation. Their average tech level was supposed to be a touch higher than the Imperium also. IIRC, the Leviathan transport was an export model of the Colossus built by the Impys under license.

I actually think that since novels started being published, the Squats having been eaten has caused them to miss out on possible characters and storylines, Sholto Unwerth being the exception.

BaronIveagh said:

Yeah, I always thought 'the tyranids ate them' was a terrible, canon warping thing, since that would mean that the tyranids would have to have eaten the Armageddon sector, which was actually brought up in the novel Gunheads with them having to visit what used to be a squat world and finding 'strange xenos carvings of stunted humanoids'.

Couldn't agree more, Baron. The whole "The Tyranids ate the squats" bit of handwavery is a mess.

Clearly, the only way forward is for Alan Bligh to write up a new retconning Forgeworld book which covers the destruction of the major Squat homeworlds in a war with a rogue splinter hivefleet, the subsequent Squat diasporah and the foundation of the major surviving Squat mercenary companies, who now work for whoever will hire them, with a tremendous grudge against every race in 40k.

Such a book could cover off all Forgeworld Tyranid minis and a new bespoke Squat army with a handful of unit types - very much in the same way that Forgeworld has recently redone the Chaos Dwarves with a small (no pun intended) range of minis.

Those of us (like me) who've spent years whining about the way the Squats were dealt with could shut up and buy squat armies. Those who regard Squats as laughable can take comfort in the fact that the Tyranids DID eat them, and that the survivors are a very minor 40k faction which can just be ignored if you don't like them.

I think this is getting a wee bit out of hand, because it's no small laughing matter after all. A lesser-man may be a mite offended at all this, but when trying to be angry online I always come up little short.